How Do You Calculate Force and Normal Force on an Inclined Plane?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force and normal force acting on a crate on a frictionless inclined plane, with a specific mass and angle provided. Participants are exploring the relationships between the forces involved, particularly focusing on the effects of gravity and the motion of the crate.

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  • Participants are attempting to resolve the forces acting on the crate, including gravitational components and the normal force. There are discussions about the implications of constant speed on acceleration and resultant forces. Some participants express confusion about the calculations and the relationships between the forces.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants questioning each other's calculations and assumptions. There is a recognition that if the crate is moving at constant speed, the acceleration is zero, which influences the resultant force. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between the forces, but no consensus on the correct values has been reached.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. There are indications of confusion regarding the normal force and its calculation, as well as discrepancies in the values being discussed.

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[SOLVED] Forces and Normal Force

Homework Statement



In the figure, a crate of mass m = 75 kg is pushed at a constant speed up a frictionless ramp (θ = 32°) by a horizontal force F. The positive direction of an x-axis is up the ramp, and the positive direction of a y-axis is perpendicular to the ramp. (a) What is the magnitude of F? (b) What is the magnitude of the normal force on the crate?

Homework Equations


F=ma


The Attempt at a Solution


After drawing a free body diagram...there is a movement to the right. F=mg which should mean F=75x9.8 which is 735N. I would think that the Normal Force would be found by F(g)cosx. I am fairly clueless about part A
 
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When you resolve the weight you get mgsin32 down the plane and mgcos32 perpendicular to it right?

The only force acting in the +ve y direction is the the Normal reaction,R. So you know that answer.

Since the motion is up the plane the resultant force is

F-mgsin32=ma

What do you think the resultant force should be equal to while moving at a constant speed?
 
I am really confused with this
 
Wouldnt the Normal force be 632.32N? since the gravitational force is -632.32?
 
TS656577 said:
Wouldnt the Normal force be 632.32N? since the gravitational force is -632.32?

Yes it would.

Resultant force,ma=F-mgsin32

If you are moving with a constant speed up the ramp and your direction is not changing, what does that say about your acceleration?
 
there is no acceleration?
 
TS656577 said:
there is no acceleration?

Yes that is correct. If there is no acceleration then what is the resultant force acting on it?
 
Im sorry, but I am really just not getting this one
 
TS656577 said:
Im sorry, but I am really just not getting this one

ok then, we start over.

Do you agree that the force acting down the plane due to the horizontal component of the weight is mgsin(32) ?

A force,F, is pushing the crate up the plane. What is the resultant force here then?

F-mgsin(32) right?
 
  • #10
That force would be 632.32 - 389.39?
 
  • #11
TS656577 said:
That force would be 632.32 - 389.39?

Nope.


389.39 is the value of mgsin(32)

632.32 is the normal reaction. Those two forces are in different directions.


But anyhow.

The resultant force =F-389.39

If you are moving with a constant speed and your direction is not changing you aren't accelerating,right?
Then a=0 right?

Now if the resultant force is ma (Newton's 2nd law)

then ma=F-389.39
 
  • #12
so it would equal 389.39 if acceleration is 0?
 
  • #13
TS656577 said:
so it would equal 389.39 if acceleration is 0?
It would be equal to that because the crate is not accelerating.
 
  • #14
Well i put in 632.32 for the Normal force and its apparently wrong
 
  • #15
TS656577 said:
Well i put in 632.32 for the Normal force and its apparently wrong

What is the answer?
 
  • #16
I have no idea...i thought it was 632.32
 
  • #17
TS656577 said:
I have no idea...i thought it was 632.32

Then how do you know the answer is not 623.95N?
 
  • #18
Theonline program rejected it. Wasnt the other answer 389.39? because if it was, that was rejected as well
 
  • #19


F=mg*tan(theta)
mg=mass*gravity
Fn=pithagren theorem
Fn=sqrtroot[(Fnx^2)+(Fny^2)]
Fny=mg
Fnx=F
 

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