How Do You Calculate Image Distance and Height Using Lenses?

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The discussion revolves around calculating image distance and height using a converging and a diverging lens. The problem involves specific focal lengths, object height, and distances between the lenses.

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  • Participants explore the application of the lens formula and magnification concepts. There are attempts to clarify the signs associated with image height and magnification, particularly regarding whether the image is inverted or upright.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the signs of magnification and the interpretation of image height. There is an acknowledgment of differing opinions on whether the final image height should be considered positive or negative, indicating an ongoing exploration of the topic.

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A converging lens with a focal length of 50cm and a diverging lens with a focal length of -52 cm are 227cm apart. A 3.9-cm-tall object is 70cm in front of the converging lens.


Calculate the distance between image and diverging lens.
Express your answer using two significant figures.
d = 26cm
correct



Part B
Calculate the image height.
Express your answer using two significant figures.
h = 1.3 wrong
one attempt remaing.


Work:
for final image distance:

1/f1 = 1/p1 + 1/q1
1/50 - 1/70 = 1/q1
q1 = 175 cm

227-175=52cm

1/f2 = 1/p2 + 1/q2

-1/52 - 1/52 = 1/q2

q2 = -26 -----> 26 cm final image distance


for image height:


M1 = -q1/p1 = 2.5

l-2.5l = h1(image)/h1(ogject)

9.75cm = h1(image)

M2 = -q2/p2 = .5

.5 = h2(image)/h1(image)

4.9 = h2(image)


is this right? I have only one attempt left

Please help...
 
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any help? please
 


4.9 cm is the correct magnitude.

However, note that M1 should be negative (the positive lens forms an inverted image). I don't know if you are expected you to bother with +/- signs to indicate upright/inverted images.
 


Redbelly98 said:
4.9 cm is the correct magnitude.

However, note that M1 should be negative (the positive lens forms an inverted image). I don't know if you are expected you to bother with +/- signs to indicate upright/inverted images.

is it suppose to be positve b/c M =absolute[h(image)/h(object)]

or is it neg.?
 


M = -q/p

If q and p are both positive or both negative, M is negative.

If q and p are of opposite sign, M is positive.

In this case, I get that the final image height is negative.
 


Redbelly98 said:
M = -q/p

If q and p are both positive or both negative, M is negative.

If q and p are of opposite sign, M is positive.

In this case, I get that the final image height is negative.

the answer was positive

Thanks for all Help guys!
 


You're welcome!

Sounds like they were interested in the absolute value.
 

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