How Do You Calculate Photon Detection Probabilities for Different Stars?

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The discussion revolves around calculating photon detection probabilities for different stars using statistical distributions, specifically the Poisson and normal distributions. The original poster presents a problem involving a telescope detecting photons from stars and seeks assistance in determining the probabilities associated with these detections.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the Poisson distribution for the first part of the problem and expresses uncertainty about transitioning to the normal distribution for the second part. Participants discuss the rationale for using the normal distribution in relation to the Poisson distribution and question how to mathematically express this transition.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, with some providing guidance on the use of the normal distribution as an approximation for the Poisson distribution under certain conditions. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical expressions involved, particularly regarding the probability distribution function and standard deviation.

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There is a mention of the original poster's uncertainty about finding the standard deviation with the given information, indicating potential constraints in the problem setup. The discussion also highlights the assumption of no noise in the detection system.

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1. A 2.5m aperture telescope obverses a star through an R filter. Assume that there is no noise associated with the detection system. The CCD has a full well depth of 20,000 counts and a gain correction factor of 1.00000.
a. On average, the telescope detects 3 photons/sec from this star. What is the probability that it will detect less than three photons in an 1 second observation

I'm pretty sure I got this one, use the Poisson distribution as shown below.

P = (3^0e^(-3))/0! + (3^1e^(-3))/1! + (3^2e^(-3))/2! = 0.42


b. Another star is observed. On average, the telescope detects 1,230 photons/sec from this star. What is the probability that will detect more than 1,230 photons in anyone second observation?

It is this part I am a little unsure of, I know I need to use the normal distribution but not sure how to reach from it.

Thanks in advance
 
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Hello Lynx, and welcome to PF. Please use the template.

You want to approach the Poisson distribution by a normal distribution in the second case, which is reasonable. Do you know why ? And do you have an expression for the normal distribution ? It has a certain characteristic that makes answering b) a piece of cake...
 
The reason why I want to use the normal distribution is because I know with a larger mean Poisson 'turns' Gaussian. And from a quick look at the bell curve, the answer would be rounded to 1/2. I'm just not sure how to express it mathematically.
 
Don't look at the curve, look at the mathematical expression for the probability distribution function of the normal distribution. What is its value in x=μ-ε if its value in x=μ+ε is p0?
 
Ok, so the probability distribution function is -

P = 1/(σ√2∏)*e^(-1/2((x-μ))/σ)^2

But I'm not sure how to find the standard deviation with the information given? I know its a silly question but I don't understand how to figure it out?
 
Placing brackets in the right place is an art too. The square is inside the exponent, meaning the distribution is symmetrical around x = μ. Symmetrical means half of its area is on the side > μ. That's nice and that is the reason you want to look at the Poisson distribution as an almost Gauss distribution. Quite justifyable for μ = 1230.
 
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