How Do You Calculate the Acceleration of a Box on a Smooth Floor?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of a box being pulled on a smooth horizontal floor, involving forces at an angle and the effects of friction in different scenarios. The subject area includes dynamics and frictional forces.

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  • Participants discuss the application of force diagrams and Newton's laws, questioning how the angle of the pulling force affects the normal force and acceleration. There are attempts to relate forces acting on boxes in different contexts, including constant speed scenarios and frictional forces.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of forces involved. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between net force and friction, but no consensus has been reached on all aspects of the problems presented.

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There are discussions about the effects of angles on forces, the role of friction in constant speed scenarios, and the need for clarification on net forces in various setups. Participants express confusion about certain concepts, indicating the complexity of the problems being addressed.

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Homework Statement



A student pulls a box of books on a smooth horizontal floor with a force of 138 N in a direction of 23.9° above the horizontal. If the mass of the box and the books is 51.6 kg, what is the acceleration of the box?

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I got a force diagram. I know that Fg = 505.68N and that should be equal to Fn. I know that Ft is the force causing acceleration. What do I do from there?
 
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black_hole said:
I got a force diagram.
Good.
I know that Fg = 505.68N
Right.
and that should be equal to Fn.
Not right. That pulling force, since it's at an angle, will affect the normal force. Luckily, that doesn't matter for this problem since there's no friction.
I know that Ft is the force causing acceleration.
What's the component of the pulling force in the direction of motion?
What do I do from there?
Apply Newton's 2nd law. What's the net force?
 


Do you want to help me with this other one too?

A constant force of 2.2 N is required to drag a 49.2 kg box across a rough wooden floor at a constant speed of 2.2 m/s. Find the coefficient of sliding friction between the floor and the box.

I think Fn= Fg this time (b/c it is not at an angle), but what is Ff?
 


black_hole said:
I think Fn= Fg this time (b/c it is not at an angle),
Good.
but what is Ff?
Hint: Since the box moves at a constant speed, what's the net force on it? (That should allow you to solve for Ff.)
 


I don`t understand !
the box moves at a constant speed
so the net force would be F = 0
but what about friction ? wouldn`t be 0 ?
I`m confused
 


MiniSmSm said:
the box moves at a constant speed
so the net force would be F = 0
That's true.
but what about friction ? wouldn`t be 0 ?
No, the friction isn't zero. (Friction is just one of the forces acting on the box.)
 


So does that mean that Ff = 2.2 N? That would mean that the coefficient of friction would be 0.005?
 


black_hole said:
So does that mean that Ff = 2.2 N?
Right.
That would mean that the coefficient of friction would be 0.005?
I would round off the answer to two significant figures, not one. But yes.
 


Now I know I'm being really annoying, but what about this one...

A 7.4 kg box is released on a 30.6° incline and accelerates down the incline at 0.55 m/s2. What is the coefficient of kinetic friction between the two surfaces?

I found Fg = 72.52 N and Fgperpendicular = 62.421 N = Fn, Fgparallel = 36.916 N. But again I don't know how to find Ff?
 
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black_hole said:
But again I don't know how to find Ff?
Hint: Use Newton's 2nd law to find the net force.
 
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I don't get it? Fgparallel - Ff = Fnet = 72.52 N. So, Ff = 35.604?
 
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black_hole said:
Fgparallel - Ff = Fnet
That's correct.
= 72.52 N.
That's incorrect. Fnet ≠ Fg. Use Newton's 2nd law to get Fnet.
 
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Thank you. You've been a big help!
 

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