Find the weight of a box sliding on a floor....

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The problem involves determining the weight of a box that is sliding on a horizontal floor, given a force required to overcome friction and the coefficient of friction. The context is rooted in the principles of friction and weight in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the force of friction, the coefficient of friction, and the normal force. There are suggestions to express equations in terms of variables before substituting numerical values. Questions arise regarding the distinction between weight and mass, and assumptions about the direction of the applied force.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem conceptually. There is recognition of the need to clarify definitions and assumptions, particularly regarding the nature of the force required and its application.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of the mass of the box and question the implications of the problem's wording regarding the direction of the applied force.

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Homework Statement


A force of 180 N is required to slide a loaded box along a horizontal floor. If the coefficient of friction is 0.32, what is the weight of the box?

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not knowledgeable about any solutions able to retrieve the correct answer since the mass of the box is absent. I have tried

180 = 0.32 (9.8)
180 = 3.13
and M = 57.50 kg

but I'm just not certain about it. I'm really stuck on this one but there must be a solution.
 
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Find and write the equation that relates the co-efficient of friction to the force of friction and the normal force. That will help you understand if your approach is correct or not.
 
My suggestion is always write down equations in terms of variables, first, and only plug in actual numbers at the end.

So pick some variable names. Maybe Ff for the force of friction, cf for the coefficient of friction and Fg for the force of gravity. Write down an equation relating these variables, and then solve for Fg. Note: the problem is asking about the weight of the box, rather than the mass of the box. The weight is just the force of gravity. You could then solve for the mass of the box from the force of friction, but the problem doesn't ask you to.
 
Migi Alarcon said:
180 = 0.32 (9.8)
180 = 3.13
and M = 57.50 kg
As they stand, the first two lines make no sense. Presumably you meant
180 = 0.32 (9.8)M
180 = 3.13M

You correctly found the mass, but as stevendaryl points out, you are asked for the weight, not the mass.

There is another possible snag. You have assumed the force is to be applied horizontally. It asks for the force "required", which suggests the minimum magnitude of force over all possible directions.
 

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