How Do You Calculate the Angular Speed and Center Speed of a Descending Hoop?

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To calculate the angular speed and center speed of a descending hoop, the initial energy (Ei) is determined using the potential energy formula, yielding 1.0584 J. The final energy (Ef) is expressed as the sum of translational and rotational kinetic energy, leading to the equation Ef = 1/2 mv² + 1/2 Iω². The moment of inertia for a hoop is confirmed as I = 1/2 mr², but concerns arise regarding the axis of rotation since the hoop is not rolling about its center. The angular speed calculated is ω = 14.9 rad/s, but there is uncertainty about the correctness of this value and the method used to find the center speed. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly applying energy conservation principles and the appropriate moment of inertia in calculations.
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Homework Statement


A string is wrapped several times around the rim of a small hoop with radius 8.00 cm and mass 0.180kg. The free end of the string is held in place and the hoop is released from rest. After the hoop has descended 60.0cm , calculate the angular speed of the rotating hoop and the speed of its center.

Homework Equations


K=Iω2
U = mgh
ω=v/r
I = 1/2 mr2

The Attempt at a Solution


Ei = mgh = (0.180)(9.8)(0.6) = 1.0584
Ef = 1/2 mv2+1/2 Iω2 = 3/4(0.08)2ω2
Ei = Ef
I got ω = 14.9 rad/s (I've also tried 35 rad/s) Is my math wrong or something?

For the second part, I saw somewhere the equation was v=√gh and but I was thinking I could just use ω=v/r but since I didn't have ω I couldn't solve that one.
 
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Hello, PKay.

I = 1/2 mr2

Is this the correct formula for a hoop?
 
I think so. The problem is the axis is in the middle for that equation but since it's on the side, I'm not too sure anymore.
 
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