Graduate How Do You Calculate the D'Alembert Operator in a Given Metric for GR?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the d'Alembert operator in a specific metric related to general relativity. The original poster struggles with tensor notation and reproducing the expected result of the d'Alembertian acting on a function, initially misapplying the definition. Clarifications reveal that the correct formulation involves Christoffel symbols, which contribute additional terms in the calculation. After addressing the role of these symbols, the poster confirms that the calculations align with the expected outcome. The conversation concludes with a resolution to the initial confusion, affirming the correct application of the d'Alembert operator.
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Was not sure weather to post, this here or in differential geometry, but is related to a GR course, so...

I am having some trouble reproducing a result, I think it is mainly down to being very new to tensor notation and operations.

But, given the metric ##ds^2 = -dudv + \frac{(v-u)^2}{4} \left( d\theta^2 + \sin^2 \theta d\phi^2 \right)##

<br /> g_{\alpha\beta} =<br /> <br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; -\frac{1}{2} &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\<br /> -\frac{1}{2} &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 0 &amp; \frac{(v-u)^2}{4} &amp; 0 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; \frac{(v-u)^2}{4} \sin^2 \theta<br /> \end{pmatrix}<br />

and given this definition of the d'Alambert operator ##\Box := g^{\alpha\beta}\partial_{\alpha}\partial_{\beta}## , reproduce the following given the d'Alambert acting on a function ##f(u,v)##

<br /> <br /> \Box f(u,v) = 4 \left( -\frac{1}{v-u} \frac{\partial f}{\partial u} + \frac{\partial f}{\partial v} - \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial u \partial v} \right)<br />

And when I try to to reproduce it, I can see from the definition that the only non-zero parts are where the inverse metric components are ##g^{uv} = -2## and ##g^{vu} = -2 ## . The ##g^{\theta \theta} ## and ##g^{\phi \phi}## bits would be zero since the function is just of ##u## and ##v##.

So what I get is this...
<br /> \Box := g^{\alpha\beta}\partial_{\alpha}\partial_{\beta}\\<br /> \Box f(u,v) = g^{uv}\partial_{u}\partial_{v} f+ g^{vu}\partial_{v}\partial_{u}f = -4 \frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial u \partial v}<br />

And I can't seem to see what I am missing here? Any help is really appreciated. Thanks.
 
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The d'Alembertian is not ##\Box = g^{\alpha\beta} \partial_\alpha \partial_\beta##, it is ##\Box = \nabla^a \nabla_a##, which for scalar fields reduces to
$$
\Box f = g^{ab} \nabla_b \nabla_a = g^{ab} \nabla_b \partial_a f = g^{ab}(\partial_b\partial_a f - \Gamma_{ba}^c \partial_c f).
$$
 
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Orodruin said:
The d'Alembertian is not ##\Box = g^{\alpha\beta} \partial_\alpha \partial_\beta##, it is ##\Box = \nabla^a \nabla_a##, which for scalar fields reduces to
$$
\Box f = g^{ab} \nabla_b \nabla_a = g^{ab} \nabla_b \partial_a f = g^{ab}(\partial_b\partial_a f - \Gamma_{ba}^c \partial_c f).
$$
Oh. Ok.. thanks will give that a go!
 
ChrisJ said:
Oh. Ok.. thanks will give that a go!

Previous to trying this I found all of the christoffel symbols for the metric define in the OP, so now trying with this new definition, it still simplifies to ##g^{ab}\partial_a \partial_b ## because ##a## and ##b## can only take on ##u## or ##v## since there are not partials wrt to the others, and there are no non-zero Christoffel symbols for ##\Gamma^c_{uv}## , so I must still be missing something
 
Do you have any Christoffel symbols of the form ##\Gamma^u_{ab}##?
 
Orodruin said:
Do you have any Christoffel symbols of the form ##\Gamma^u_{ab}##?

Yes, but only for ##\Gamma^u_{\theta\theta}## and ##\Gamma^u_{\phi\phi} ## (and the same, but with with ##v## as ##c##). But that would lead to partials wrt to ##\theta## and ##\phi##, which don't appear in what I am trying to reproduce.
 
ChrisJ said:
But that would lead to partials wrt to ##theta## and ##\phi##
No, this is wrong.

Edit: To be more specific, for example ##\Gamma^u_{\theta\theta}## leads to the term
$$
-\Gamma^{u}_{\theta\theta} g^{\theta\theta} \partial_u f,
$$
which includes a derivative wrt ##u##.
 
Orodruin said:
No, this is wrong.

Sorry! Yes, I just saw it, the ##\partial_c## bit,
Orodruin said:
No, this is wrong.

Edit: To be more specific, for example ##\Gamma^u_{\theta\theta}## leads to the term
$$
-\Gamma^{u}_{\theta\theta} g^{\theta\theta} \partial_u f,
$$
which includes a derivative wrt ##u##.

Thank you! I just saw it, ok, so the terms with ##\Gamma^u_{\theta\theta}## and ##\Gamma^u_{\phi\phi}## lead to ##\frac{-4}{v-u}\frac{\partial f}{\partial u}## (and the same for the ones with ##\Gamma^v_{\theta\theta}## and ##\Gamma^v_{\phi\phi}## lead to ##\frac{4}{v-u}\frac{\partial f}{\partial u}##. And then the one that I already found in the OP with the zero christoffel symbol, leads to ##-4\frac{\partial^2 f}{\partial u \partial v}##
 
So everything works out now?
 
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Orodruin said:
So everything works out now?

Yes, thank you!
 

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