How Do You Calculate the Derivative of a Function with Parametric Equations?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the derivative of a function defined by parametric equations, specifically f(x,y) = y cos(x) with x(t) = t^2 and y(t) = sin(t). Participants are exploring the application of the chain rule in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the chain rule and the transformation of f into a function of time, f(t). Some express uncertainty about the next steps after calculating partial derivatives and derivatives with respect to t.

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There is an ongoing exploration of how to apply the chain rule correctly. Some participants suggest that the original poster should consult notes or examples for guidance on integrating the calculated derivatives into a complete solution.

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There is a noted uncertainty regarding the clarity of the problem setup and the expected approach, with participants questioning assumptions about the method of solution.

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Homework Statement


Given f(x,y)=ycosx,x(t)=t^2,y(t)=sint

Calculate \frac{df((x(t),y(t))}{dt}
t∈ℝ

Homework Equations


For parametric equations I know
\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{\frac{dy}{dt}}{\frac{dx}{dt}}

The Attempt at a Solution


So far I have found
\frac{∂f}{∂x}=-ysinx
\frac{∂f}{∂y}=cosx
\frac{dx}{dt}=2t
\frac{dy}{dt}=sint

but I'm not too sure where to go afterwards.
 
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Why do you just write f(x(t),y(t)) just change x but x(t) and y(t) and you'll get f as a WHOLE function of time, all you need there is takeout the derivative :)
 
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Cpt Qwark said:

Homework Statement


Given f(x,y)=ycosx,x(t)=t^2,y(t)=sint

Calculate \frac{df((x(t),y(t))}{dt}
t∈ℝ

Homework Equations


For parametric equations I know
\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{\frac{dy}{dt}}{\frac{dx}{dt}}

The Attempt at a Solution


So far I have found
\frac{∂f}{∂x}=-ysinx
\frac{∂f}{∂y}=cosx
\frac{dx}{dt}=2t
\frac{dy}{dt}=sint

but I'm not too sure where to go afterwards.

Apply the chain rule.
 
Noctisdark said:
Why do you just write f(x(t),y(t)) just change x but x(t) and y(t) and you'll get f as a WHOLE function of time, all you need there is takeout the derivative :)

oh so just f(x,y)=sintcost^2
 
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oh so just f(x,y)=sintcost^2
Yes, But write f(t) = sin(t)cos(t2) and pull out the derivative :3
 
If f(x,y)= y cos(x) with x= t^2 and y= sin(t), then, yes, f(x)= sin(t)cos(t^2) and you can differentiate that.

But I think it is more likely that you expected to use the chain rule:
\frac{df}{dt}= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt}
 
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Homework Statement


Given f(x,y)=y \cos x,x(t)=t^2,y(t)=\sin t, calculate \frac{df((x(t),y(t))}{dt}, t∈\mathbb{R}.

Homework Equations


For parametric equations I know
\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{\frac{dy}{dt}}{\frac{dx}{dt}}

The Attempt at a Solution


So far I have found
\begin{align*}\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}&=-y\sin x \\
\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}&=\cos x \\
\frac{dx}{dt}&=2t \\
\frac{dy}{dt}&=\sin t
\end{align*} but I'm not too sure where to go afterwards.
It's curious why you would calculate these derivatives if you didn't have some idea already in mind about how to solve the problem. Perhaps you just weren't clear on the details. When you reached this point, a good idea would have been to consult your notes or textbook for an example like this problem to see how to put it all together.
 

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