How Do You Calculate the Equilibrium Constant for a Reaction at 80°C?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the equilibrium constant for the reaction H2(g) + I2(g) <--> 2HI(g) at 80°C, specifically addressing how to determine the minimum amount of hydrogen gas required to remove all solid iodine from a given mass in a specified volume. The scope includes homework-related problem-solving and mathematical reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant provides a calculation for ΔrG and derives the equilibrium constant (K) using the given Gibbs free energy values.
  • Another participant suggests that enough hydrogen must be introduced to shift the equilibrium to the right until the pressure of iodine is below 0.0216 bar.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about how to incorporate the amount of iodine into the calculations and whether to use the equilibrium constant in this context.
  • Another participant outlines a general approach involving writing multiple equations: one for the equilibrium constant, one for iodine mass balance, one for hydrogen mass balance, and a fourth for the specified condition regarding iodine pressure.
  • A later reply indicates confusion about mass balance concepts and how to include the volume of the vessel and the mass of iodine in the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on how to proceed with the calculations, as there are multiple competing views on the approach to take and the necessary equations to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions and applications of mass balance in this context, as well as how to effectively incorporate the given volume and mass of iodine into their calculations.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the equilibrium constant for the reaction
H2(g) + I2(g) <---> 2HI(g)
at 80oC. The vapor pressure of solid iodine is 0.0216 bar at that temperature. If 52.7g of solid iodine are placed in a 10.0 L vessel at 80.0oC, what is the minimum amount of hydrogen gas that must be introduced in order to remove all of the solid iodine?

Homework Equations


ΔrG = ΔfG(products) - ΔfG(reactants)
ln K = -ΔrG / RT

The Attempt at a Solution


ΔfG for HI(g) = 1.70, for H2(g) = 0 and for I2(g) = 19.33 KJ mol-1
ΔrG = 2(1.7) - 0 - 19.33
ΔrG = -15.93 KJ mol-1
ln K = -ΔrG / RT
ln k = -(-15.93E3) / (8/314)(353) = 5.42
k = 225.9

Now I need to find the minimum amount of hydrogen gas and I have no idea where to start. Thanks for any help.
 
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You need enough hydrogen to shift equilibrium right till the pressure of iodine is below 0.0216 bar.

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I'm not sure how to do that.. do I use the equilibrium constant? How would I incorporate the amount of iodine given?
 
General approach is to write three equations - one will be the equilibrium constant, one iodine mass balance (mass of iodine present in HI and present as unreacted I2) and mass balance for hydrogen (again - in HI and unreacted). Fourth equation is condition mentioned above. Solve for total number of moles of hydrogen.

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EDIT
I'm not sure what a mass balance is..
mass of iodine is 126.9 g/mol mass of H is 1.008g/mol
mass of iodine in HI is 126.9 g/mol
mass of iodine in I2 is 253.8 g/mol and there are 2 moles so 507.6 g
mass of H in HI is 1.008 g
mass of H in H2 is 2.016
k=[C]c/[A]ab
Sorry I'm still really confused.. where I need to include the 10.0L as the volume of the vessel? And the 52.7g of iodine..
 
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