How Do You Calculate the Frequency of a Wave Traveling Along a String?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the frequency of a wave traveling along a string with a length of 2.7 meters, mass of 260 grams, and tension of 36N. The user successfully derived the linear density as 0.096 kg/m and calculated the wave speed as 19.36 m/s. Using the power equation, they determined the angular frequency (w) to be 1242 rad/s, leading to a frequency (f) of 197.67 Hz. The calculations were confirmed by other participants in the forum.

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Hi

I have a question that I'm not sure how to answer, it goes like this:

A string along which waves can travel in 2.7m long and has a mass of 260g. The tension is 36N. What must the frequency of a traveling wave of amplitude 7.70mm be if the average power transmitted is 85W?

I was going to use the average power question and worked out that the linear density would be 0.96 (or 9.6e-3), but I'm not sure how to go about finding the angular frequency or height of the wave (e.g. y) with the info given in the question or am I going about this in completely the wrong fashion?

Also, where is the equation editor in this forum? I was going to write out the Power equ' but it would look fairly untidy in normal text.

Thanks
 
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Just realized the height (y) is the amplitude squared - which I work out to be:

7.7mm = 7.7e-3 m, so that squared should be 5.929e-5, I think.

If this is correct then I just need the velocity and angular wavelength.
 
ok, slight update. I have now worked out that the linear density is in fact 0.096 and the amplitude is 7.7e-3

Could anyone tell me how I get the velocity from this? I mean the speed of the wave v
(p=1/2*linear density*v*w^2*y^2)
Thanks
 
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The velocity on a wave can be obtained using the equation;

v = \sqrt{\frac{T}{\frac{m}{L}}}

This can be derrived from the wave equation

~H
 
Thanks,
I just realized that I can use the root of tension/linear density.

and got a value of 19.36, does that sound about right?
 
Aha !

How does this sound?

w^2= 85/0.5*(0.096)*19.36*(7.7e-3)^2
w^2= 1542733.411
w = root of the above = 1242 rad/s
f = w/2pi = 197.67 Hz
 
kel said:
and got a value of 19.36, does that sound about right?

I would agree with that.

~H
 
HOOOOORRRAYYYY!

Hey are you any good with wave interference? My lecturer has been crafty and given us a question where I have 2 waves which interfere, but the only equation given is that of the resultant wave and I don't know how to resolve them back into their component waves.

I know it's along the lines of vector algebra, but I'm clueless on this one I'm afraid.
 
kel said:
Aha !

How does this sound?

w^2= 85/0.5*(0.096)*19.36*(7.7e-3)^2
w^2= 1542733.411
w = root of the above = 1242 rad/s
f = w/2pi = 197.67 Hz

I would also agree with that. Well done, you solved it without any help from me, I feel reducntant now :-p . By the way, to insert mathematical equations see this thread; https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8997 . Also, if you click on any formulae in these forums a pop up will present the code used to produce the equation.

~H
 
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kel said:
HOOOOORRRAYYYY!

Hey are you any good with wave interference? My lecturer has been crafty and given us a question where I have 2 waves which interfere, but the only equation given is that of the resultant wave and I don't know how to resolve them back into their component waves.

I know it's along the lines of vector algebra, but I'm clueless on this one I'm afraid.

If you post your question I guarantee someone on PF will be able to answer it :biggrin:

~H
 
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Cheers! I'm sure I owe u a few beers by now tho!
 
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kel said:
Cheers! I'm sure I owe u a few beers by now tho!

Not a problem my friend :smile: . Damn, this virtual beer sure does taste good :cool:

~H
 

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