How Do You Calculate the Frequency of a Wave Traveling Along a String?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the frequency of a wave traveling along a string, given specific parameters such as string length, mass, tension, amplitude, and average power transmitted. The subject area includes wave mechanics and properties of waves on strings.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to use the average power to find the linear density and questions how to derive angular frequency and wave height from the provided information. Other participants discuss the calculation of wave velocity and its relation to tension and linear density, while also exploring the implications of their calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing calculations and verifying each other's results. Some have provided equations and derived values, while others express uncertainty about specific steps and seek clarification on concepts related to wave interference.

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There are mentions of potential confusion regarding the definitions of amplitude and height, as well as the need for clarity on the equations used in the calculations. The original poster also inquires about the forum's equation editor for presenting mathematical expressions more clearly.

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Hi

I have a question that I'm not sure how to answer, it goes like this:

A string along which waves can travel in 2.7m long and has a mass of 260g. The tension is 36N. What must the frequency of a traveling wave of amplitude 7.70mm be if the average power transmitted is 85W?

I was going to use the average power question and worked out that the linear density would be 0.96 (or 9.6e-3), but I'm not sure how to go about finding the angular frequency or height of the wave (e.g. y) with the info given in the question or am I going about this in completely the wrong fashion?

Also, where is the equation editor in this forum? I was going to write out the Power equ' but it would look fairly untidy in normal text.

Thanks
 
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Just realized the height (y) is the amplitude squared - which I work out to be:

7.7mm = 7.7e-3 m, so that squared should be 5.929e-5, I think.

If this is correct then I just need the velocity and angular wavelength.
 
ok, slight update. I have now worked out that the linear density is in fact 0.096 and the amplitude is 7.7e-3

Could anyone tell me how I get the velocity from this? I mean the speed of the wave v
(p=1/2*linear density*v*w^2*y^2)
Thanks
 
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The velocity on a wave can be obtained using the equation;

v = \sqrt{\frac{T}{\frac{m}{L}}}

This can be derrived from the wave equation

~H
 
Thanks,
I just realized that I can use the root of tension/linear density.

and got a value of 19.36, does that sound about right?
 
Aha !

How does this sound?

w^2= 85/0.5*(0.096)*19.36*(7.7e-3)^2
w^2= 1542733.411
w = root of the above = 1242 rad/s
f = w/2pi = 197.67 Hz
 
kel said:
and got a value of 19.36, does that sound about right?

I would agree with that.

~H
 
HOOOOORRRAYYYY!

Hey are you any good with wave interference? My lecturer has been crafty and given us a question where I have 2 waves which interfere, but the only equation given is that of the resultant wave and I don't know how to resolve them back into their component waves.

I know it's along the lines of vector algebra, but I'm clueless on this one I'm afraid.
 
kel said:
Aha !

How does this sound?

w^2= 85/0.5*(0.096)*19.36*(7.7e-3)^2
w^2= 1542733.411
w = root of the above = 1242 rad/s
f = w/2pi = 197.67 Hz

I would also agree with that. Well done, you solved it without any help from me, I feel reducntant now :-p . By the way, to insert mathematical equations see this thread; https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8997 . Also, if you click on any formulae in these forums a pop up will present the code used to produce the equation.

~H
 
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kel said:
HOOOOORRRAYYYY!

Hey are you any good with wave interference? My lecturer has been crafty and given us a question where I have 2 waves which interfere, but the only equation given is that of the resultant wave and I don't know how to resolve them back into their component waves.

I know it's along the lines of vector algebra, but I'm clueless on this one I'm afraid.

If you post your question I guarantee someone on PF will be able to answer it :biggrin:

~H
 
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Cheers! I'm sure I owe u a few beers by now tho!
 
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kel said:
Cheers! I'm sure I owe u a few beers by now tho!

Not a problem my friend :smile: . Damn, this virtual beer sure does taste good :cool:

~H
 

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