How Do You Calculate the Impact Speed of an Asteroid?

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The problem involves calculating the impact speed of an asteroid falling towards Earth from a position far beyond Pluto, utilizing gravitational principles and energy conservation. The scenario includes specific masses and distances related to the Sun and Earth, as well as the angle of impact.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the energy principle to derive an equation for the impact speed but expresses uncertainty about calculating the gravitational potential energies due to unknown distances. Other participants question the clarity of the terms used in the equations and seek clarification on the definitions of the potential energy variables.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking to clarify the definitions and assumptions related to the potential energy calculations. There is a lack of consensus on how to proceed, as some participants express confusion about the original poster's question.

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The original poster notes the need for specific distances to calculate potential energies, which are not provided in the problem statement. This missing information is a point of contention in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Suppose an asteroid of mass 3.9e21 kg is nearly at rest outside the solar system, far beyond Pluto. It falls toward the Sun and crashes into the Earth at the equator, coming in at an angle of 30 degrees to the vertical as shown, against the direction of rotation of the Earth. It is so large that its motion is barely affected by the atmosphere.

Mass.asteriod = 3.9e21 kg
Mass.Sun = 2e30 kg
Mass.Earth = 6e24 kg
Distance from Earth to Sun: 1.5e11 m
Grav Constant G: 6.7e-11

Homework Equations


Energy Principle
Using the energy principle to solve for the impact speed, I derive the following equation.
Kast + Use + Uas + Uae = Use
(.5)(3.9e21)v^2 -5.36e33 + Uas +Uae = -5.36e33


The Attempt at a Solution


Using the energy principle to solve for the impact speed, I derive the following equation.

Kast + Use + Uas + Uae = Use
(.5)(3.9e21)v^2 -5.36e33 + Uas +Uae = -5.36e33
My main problem is that I do not know how to calculate the potential energy for Uas and Uae because I do not know the distance from the asteriod and the sun, and the distance from the asteriod to the earth. If anyone can tell me how to figure this out I can easily solve for the impact speed. Please help me. Thanks.
 
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This is surely NOT a good question

what is ast se as ae ... you ave used?
 
cupid.callin said:
This is surely NOT a good question

what is ast se as ae ... you ave used?


Sorry I thought that would be clear based on the context of the question. Uae = potential energy of the asteriod to the earth, Uas = potential energy of the asteriod to the sun, Use = potential energy of the sun to the earth. Where Grav potential energy = -Gm1m2/r, and my problem is finding the r for the distance from the asteriod and the sun, and the distance from the asteriod to the earth
 
So nobody is sure how to answer this question?
 

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