Asteroid Collision: Calculate Impact Speed & Change in Day Length

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The problem involves an asteroid with a mass of 1e19 kg that falls toward the Sun and impacts the Earth at an angle of 30 degrees. Participants are tasked with calculating the impact speed and the change in the length of a day due to this impact, assuming the asteroid's mass does not significantly affect the Earth's moment of inertia.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy to determine the impact speed. Some suggest using the conservation of energy principle to relate initial and final states of the asteroid.
  • There are inquiries about the assumptions made regarding the asteroid's mass and its effect on the Earth's rotation.
  • One participant questions the need for a figure to better understand the problem setup.
  • Several participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the reasoning behind their answers.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored to calculate the impact speed and the change in day length. Some participants have provided numerical estimates for the impact speed, while others are questioning the methods and assumptions used. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final answers yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that different masses of the asteroid could lead to varying changes in the length of the day, and there are corrections suggested regarding the calculations involving angular momentum.

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Homework Statement


Suppose an asteroid of mass 1 1019 kg is nearly at rest outside the solar system, far beyond Pluto. It falls toward the Sun and crashes into the Earth at the equator, coming in at an angle of 30 degrees to the vertical as shown, against the direction of rotation of the Earth (Figure 9.71). It is so large that its motion is barely affected by the atmosphere.




(a) Calculate the impact speed.
m/s
(b) Calculate in hours the change in the length of a day due to the impact.
hours



Note: Assume that the mass of the asteroid does not significantly change the moment of inertia of the Earth. This is a valid assumption except for the very largest of asteroids.


Homework Equations



mass earth: 6e24
mass of asteriod: 1e19
r1 = distance from sun to beyond pluto ~ 5.89e12
r2 = distance from sun to Earth = 1.5e11

V = GMm / R
ω = 2π /T
I = mr^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I've sat here and stared at it for about an hour now and I have absolutely no idea.
 
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karobins said:

Homework Statement


Suppose an asteroid of mass 1 1019 kg is nearly at rest outside the solar system, far beyond Pluto. It falls toward the Sun and crashes into the Earth at the equator, coming in at an angle of 30 degrees to the vertical as shown, against the direction of rotation of the Earth (Figure 9.71). It is so large that its motion is barely affected by the atmosphere.

(a) Calculate the impact speed.
m/s
(b) Calculate in hours the change in the length of a day due to the impact.
hours

Note: Assume that the mass of the asteroid does not significantly change the moment of inertia of the Earth. This is a valid assumption except for the very largest of asteroids.

Homework Equations



mass earth: 6e24
mass of asteriod: 1e19
r1 = distance from sun to beyond pluto ~ 5.89e12
r2 = distance from sun to Earth = 1.5e11

V = GMm / R
ω = 2π /T
I = mr^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I've sat here and stared at it for about an hour now and I have absolutely no idea.

First of all I would want to figure the Kinetic energy that the asteroid had gained in falling toward the sun. 1/2 mV2 which you can figure by figuring its change in potential energy wrt the sun right?

That should set up the next part of figuring the change in angular momentum.

This you might find by figuring the angular momentum of the Earth and then subtracting the angular momentum of the asteroid relative to the center of the Earth and figuring how that changes the final ω.
 
Sorry for interrupting ,
Could You please attach the figure(sketch)?
thanks.
 
here is the figure
 

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Yeah I'm stuck on this problem too...
 
Ok, do NOT ask me why, but I believe that part A is 4.4e4 m/s. Hope that is the answer! :)
 
gooooooood job
that's the ans...
but don't know why
haha
 
hbates3000 said:
Ok, do NOT ask me why, but I believe that part A is 4.4e4 m/s. Hope that is the answer! :)

Seems close, perhaps you used different numbers?

Figuring that the asteroid is at rest with 0 potential when it starts, then you have

0 = 1/2 m*v2 + (- m*μs /r)

where μs is the heliocentric gravitational constant of 1.32 x 1020 m3/s2

I used r from the sun of 1.5*1011 m
 
In order to figure out the velocity at impact, you use the energy principle (K + U)i = (K + U)f. Initially, the asteroid's velocity is zero, and it is far enough away for us to consider the gravitational potential energy zero as well. In the final state, the asteroid is nearly touching the Earth's surface, so it has gravitational potential energy relative to the sun, AND the earth. So, 0i = (.5mv^2- G*M_earth*M_asteroid/r_1 -G*M_sun*M_asteroid/r_2)f, where r_1 = radius of earth, and r_2 = distance between the Earth and sun. Knowing everything except v, you can solve for it.

G = 6.7e-11
M_asteroid = 1e19
M_earth = 6e24
M_sun = 2e30
r_1 = 6.4e6
r_2 = 1.496e11

I got 43784.34 m/s for the impact velocity.

In part b, the velocity that changes the rotational angular momentum is sin(theta)*(impact velocity), but since they ask for the change in period IN HOURS, you need to convert sin(theta)*v_impact into m/hr, then you use the conservation of angular momentum. Since asteroid impacts in the opposite direction of the angular momentum of the earth, you have -sin(theta)*v_impact(in m/hr)*r_1 + 2/5*M_earth*r_1^2*2*pi/24 initially, and that is equal to the final state: 2/5*M_earth*r_1^2*2*pi/T, where T is your new period. Solve for T, and you should get 24.00470466 hrs or something close, subtract 24 from that, and you have the change in length of one day. Boiler UP!
 
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Note: different masses of the asteroid will result in different changes in the length of the day
 
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Correction! you should multiply by the mass of the asteroid in part b where it says -sin(theta)*v_impact*r_1. So it should be -sin(theta)*v_impact*r_1*m_asteroid. Sorry if it caused problems
 

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