How Do You Calculate the Inertia Tensor for a Complex Molecule?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the inertia tensor for a complex molecule composed of various atoms, including fluorine, carbon, oxygen, and potassium. The original poster presents the positions and masses of these atoms and seeks to determine the components of the inertia tensor.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem, particularly in transitioning from solid objects to a collection of point masses. They inquire about integrating over mass or finding a simpler substitute.
  • Some participants suggest using sums instead of integrals, indicating a shift in approach to accommodate the point mass nature of the atoms.
  • There is a discussion about the relevance of the parallel axis theorem and whether certain atoms contribute to the inertia tensor based on their alignment with the axes.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to calculate the inertia tensor, with some providing guidance on using sums for point masses and discussing the implications of the parallel axis theorem. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations and approaches without a clear consensus on the best method yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster has indicated a lack of experience with calculating the moment of inertia for collections of small objects, which may influence their understanding of the problem. There is also an emphasis on the positioning of atoms relative to the axes, which is critical for the calculations.

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Homework Statement



A molecule similar to methanol is made by joining three flourine atoms (purple; m = 19 amu each) to one carbon atom (blue; 12 amu) to one oxygen atom (green; 16 amu) to one potassium atom (orange; 39 amu). The position of each atom is as follows:

1. The flourine atoms are evenly spaced about the origin in the z = 0 plane, with one of them on the x-axis at -0.476 nm.

2. The carbon atom is on the z axis at z = 0.238 nm.

3. The oxygen atom is on the z axis at z = 0.952 nm.

4. The potassium atom is located at coordinates (x, y, z) = (-0.357, 0.000, 1.190) nm.

Determine the components of the inertia tensor for this molecule. Enter a) Ixx, b) Iyy, and c) Izz.

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Homework Equations



Ixx= ∫ y^2 + z^2 dm

Iyy= ∫ x^2 + z^2 dm

Izz= ∫ x^2 + y^2 dm


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure where to start with this one. I've only ever had to find the moment of inertia for a solid object, never a collection of small objects. For those I converted to spherical coordinates and solved it that way.

I think the first thing that would help me out is finding out how to integrate over mass, or finding a substitute for it which would be easier to integrate over. Any suggestions?
 

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They are points masses. Use sums instead of integrals.
 
Sorry, I'm not quite sure what you mean
 
You can ignore the moment of inertia of each atom about its own centroidal axis. Apply the parallel axis theorem after finding the location of the centroid of the molecule.
 
I think what you're saying is that a molecule only adds to the moment of inertia of it isn't lying directly on that axis?

ie; the blue and green molecules don't add to the Izz moment of inertia because they lie on the z-axis?
 
$$
I_{xx} = \sum_i m_i \left( y_i^2 + z_i^2 \right)
$$
etc. where ##y_i## is the ##y## coordinate of atom ##i## and so on.
 

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