How Do You Calculate the Initial Velocity and Range of a Soccer Ball?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the initial velocity and horizontal range of a soccer ball kicked at an angle of 53 degrees, landing on a roof 7.2 m high, with a wall 25 m away. The ball takes 2.1 seconds to pass over the wall.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the 2.1 seconds, questioning whether it refers to the time to reach the wall or the total time of flight. Suggestions include analyzing the motion in two parts: the ascent to the wall and the descent onto the roof.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding breaking the problem into two segments, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of total time provided, which is common in other problems they have encountered, leading to confusion regarding the time component in this scenario.

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Homework Statement



A person kicks a soccer ball with an intial velocity directed 53 degrees above the horizontal. The ball lands on a roof 7.2 m high. The wall of the building is 25m away, and it takes the ball 2.1 seconds to pass directly over the wall. Calculate the intial velocity of the ball an its horizontal range.

Homework Equations


this is for horizontal motion

Vix=\Deltax/\Delta

this is for vertical motion

Vfy=Viy+ay(\Deltat)
\Deltay=viy\Deltat+1/2ay(\Deltat)^2

Vfy^2=Viy^2+2ay\Deltay
\Deltay=Vfy\Deltat-1/2ay(\Deltat)^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Okay hi everyone this is my first post! Well okay i don't understand the part about how it takes 2.1 seconds to go over the wall because in most of the questions i have done they give total time.
 
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Welcome to Physics Forums -- from the problem, I assume that means it takes 2.1 seconds to get to the wall, and then it travels for a bit to get all the way to the wall. You could handle that in a couple different ways -- say finding the height at that point, the distance it travels from that point along the wall, and the time that the second leg of the motion would take, etc.
 
jackarms said:
Welcome to Physics Forums -- from the problem, I assume that means it takes 2.1 seconds to get to the wall, and then it travels for a bit to get all the way to the wall. You could handle that in a couple different ways -- say finding the height at that point, the distance it travels from that point along the wall, and the time that the second leg of the motion would take, etc.

Thats sounds really confusing
 
Just handle the problem in two parts. One part is the ball launched to that point above the wall, and the other part is the ball falling from that point down onto the roof. See where the analysis of that gets you.
 

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