How Do You Calculate the Mass of the Moon Using Surface Gravity?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass of the Moon using its surface gravity and the weight of a man on the Moon. Participants explore the relationship between gravitational force and mass, referencing relevant equations and the dimensions of the Moon.

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  • Participants attempt to apply the formula for gravitational force and surface gravity to derive the Moon's mass. Some question whether additional information, such as the mass of the man, is necessary for the calculation. Others discuss potential errors in their calculations and the significance of the diameter provided.

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Several participants have shared their calculations and results, with some expressing uncertainty about their answers. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods and interpretations of the problem, with feedback being exchanged to clarify misunderstandings.

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Participants mention discrepancies in the values used for diameter and radius, as well as the need to clarify units of measurement. There is also a reference to the known mass of the Moon for comparison, which adds context to the discussion.

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Homework Statement
The weight of a man on the moon is 1/6 of his weight on Earth. If a man is at the surface of the moon whose diameter of its cross-section is approximately 4.47x10^6, what is the mass of the moon?
Relevant Equations
F=gm1m2/r^2
Thanks for the help! :)
Edit: My answer is 1.25 x 10^7 ( I do not think it is correct, I'll try to think some more and update my answer)
Do we need to get the mass of the man? or is this problem actually solvable?
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2r=4.47 10^6 meter
 
Mikasun1108 said:
Homework Statement:: The weight of a man on the moon is 1/6 of his weight on Earth. If a man is at the surface of the moon whose diameter of its cross-section is approximately 4.47x10^6, what is the mass of the moon?
Relevant Equations:: F=gm1m2/r^2

Thanks for the help! :)
-sun1108
We need to see your best attempt to solve this yourself.
 
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PeroK said:
We need to see your best attempt to solve this yourself.
Ook, sorry I didn't put my attempt I wasn't sure about my answer. Ill make sure to write it.
 
Mikasun1108 said:
Edit: My answer is 1.25 x 10^7 ( I do not think it is correct, I'll try to think some more and update my answer)
Looks like an error with the orders of magnitude. Maybe a conversion problem.
Please post your steps,
 
haruspex said:
Looks like an error with the orders of magnitude. Maybe a conversion problem.
Please post your steps,
Oh right i think i might have place a 667 instead of 6.67. Thanks for the feedback.
I tried doing it again this time I got 1.213 X 10^23 kg
Working: m2= Fr^2/Gm1
Assuming mass is 60kg weight in moon will be 97.2 N
So m2= 97.2N(4.985225 x 10^12m)/6.67 x 10^-11 Nm^2kg^-2(60kg)
m2= 1.213 x 10^23kg
 
Mikasun1108 said:
Oh right i think i might have place a 667 instead of 6.67. Thanks for the feedback.
I tried doing it again this time I got 1.213 X 10^23 kg
Working: m2= Fr^2/Gm1
Assuming mass is 60kg weight in moon will be 97.2 N
So m2= 97.2N(4.985225 x 10^12m)/6.67 x 10^-11 Nm^2kg^-2(60kg)
m2= 1.213 x 10^23kg
When I search online, the mass of the Moon is given as ##7.35 \times 10^{22} kg##.
 
PS that said, the diameter of the Moon is given as ##3.5 \times 10^6 m##.
 
Using the data you were given, your answer is approximately correct. If I use ##g = 9.81 m/s^2## for Earth, I get ##M = 1.25 \times 10^{23}kg##
 
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PeroK said:
PS that said, the diameter of the Moon is given as ##3.5 \times 10^6 m##.
Oh! so re #2, it was not meter but perhaps milli mile ?
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Wrong comment. I confused diameter with radius.
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
Oh! so re #2, not meter but mile ?
##m## is metres.
 
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Mikasun1108 said:
Relevant Equations::[/B] F=gm1m2/r^2
GmM_E/6R_E^2=GmM_M/R_M^2
\frac{\rho_M}{\rho_E} =\frac{1}{6}\frac{ R_E}{R_M}
where ##\rho_M,\rho_E## are average density of Moon and the Earth with assumption that both have sphere shape. In observation
\frac{\rho_M}{\rho_E} =0.6 and \frac{ R_E}{R_M} =3.6
 
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PeroK said:
When I search online, the mass of the Moon is given as ##7.35 \times 10^{22} kg##.
So sorry for the very late reply, I haven't been opening my account, thank you so much for your feedback.
I apologize for the very late update: I tried doing the question again later, but then I still arrived at the same answer. Here is my working.
 

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I just put the numbers in a spreadsheet:

GDRgM
6.67E-11​
4.47E+06​
2.24E+06​
1.635​
1.22E+23​

The first column is the gravitational constant. The second is the given diameter of the Moon. The third is the radius of the Moon (##R = D/2##). The fourth is the Moon's surface gravity, which I calculated as ##\frac{ 9.81}{6} \ m/s^2##.

The final column, the estimated mass of the Moon, I calculated using the formula for surface gravity ##g = \frac{GM}{R^2}##.
 
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PeroK said:
I just put the numbers in a spreadsheet:

GDRgM
6.67E-11​
4.47E+06​
2.24E+06​
1.635​
1.22E+23​

The first column is the gravitational constant. The second is the given diameter of the Moon. The third is the radius of the Moon (##R = D/2##). The fourth is the Moon's surface gravity, which I calculated as ##\frac{ 9.81}{6} \ m/s^2##.

The final column, the estimated mass of the Moon, I calculated using the formula for surface gravity ##g = \frac{GM}{R^2}##.
Yeyy, so my answer is correct :). Thank you so much for your help and prompt reply, I truly appreciate it :)
 

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