How Do You Calculate the Moment of Inertia for a Pulley?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for a pulley in a system involving a falling block. The problem includes parameters such as the mass of the block, the mass and radius of the pulley, and the velocity of the block after falling a certain distance.

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  • Participants explore different methods to relate the kinetic energy of the falling mass and the pulley, questioning the validity of equating them directly. Some suggest using conservation of mechanical energy as an alternative approach. Others discuss the use of free-body diagrams and net torque to analyze the system.

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The discussion includes attempts to verify calculations and reasoning behind the moment of inertia. Some participants express uncertainty about their answers and seek clarification on potential errors. There is an acknowledgment of different approaches being explored, including energy conservation and torque analysis.

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Participants mention that the problem was part of a test and express a desire to understand the concepts better for future assessments. There is a focus on ensuring comprehension rather than simply arriving at the correct answer.

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Homework Statement


A 1.3 kg block is tied to a string that is wrapped around the rim of a pulley of radius 7.2cm. The mass of the pulley is 0.31kg. The block is released from rest. If the velocity of the block is 3.0m/s after it falls 0.5m, what is the moment of inertia for the pulley?[/b]


Homework Equations



I = (1/2mv^2)/(angular velocity)^2
angular velocity = v/R

The Attempt at a Solution



I= [(1/2)(1.3)(3.0)^2]/[(3.0/7.2)^2]
I= 3.8025/0.1736
I= 21.90



I know this answer doesn't make sense, but I'm not sure what I'm missing. This was a test question I got wrong, so I'm not concerned about the answer, I just want to make sure I understand how to go about solving it to prepare for my final. Any help or guidance is greatly appreciated.
 
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Looks like you were attempting to equate the KE of the falling mass with the KE of the pulley. No obvious reason to think that is true.

Instead, use conservation of total mechanical energy. Total mechanical energy = rotational KE of pulley + translational KE of falling mass + gravitational PE.
 
Welcome to PF;
What makes you think the answer makes no sense?

Did you try isolating the pulley and the mass and using free-body diagrams?
(Or cons. of energy...)
 
I spoke with one of my classmates, and this is what we worked out...

v^2 = vo^2 + 2ay
3^2 = 2(a)(0.5)
a = 9m/s

Net Torque = I * alpha
a = alpha * r
Trsin90 = I (a/r)
T(0,072)= I (9/0.072)


F = ma
T - mg = -ma
T = mg - ma
T = 1.3(9.8) - 1.3(9)
T = 1.04
(1.04)(0,072)= I (9/0.072)
0.07488 = 125I


I = 5.99e-4 kg m^2


Can anyone verify, or if we made an error point out where we went wrong?
 
Looks good to me. (Just for fun, try solving it using conservation of energy.)
 
So... did you figure out what you were missing?
 

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