How Do You Calculate the Net Gravitational Force on a Mass in a 3D Force System?

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The problem involves calculating the net gravitational force acting on a 1kg mass located at the origin of a 3D coordinate system, where other spherical masses are positioned at the corners of a cube with an edge length of 2.0m. The masses range from 1kg to 8kg, and the original poster seeks to determine the magnitude and direction of the net gravitational force on the 1kg mass.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the gravitational forces exerted by each mass on the 1kg mass using the formula F = G m1m2/r² and has computed the x, y, and z components of the forces. They inquire about the next steps to find the total magnitude and direction of the force.
  • Some participants suggest using the magnitude formula for vectors and discuss the concept of unit vectors for direction, while others mention the use of Euler angles as a potential approach.
  • Questions arise regarding the application of unit vectors and how to extend 2D methods for finding angles to a 3D context.

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Participants note that the original poster is new to the forum and may be unfamiliar with the expected response times. There is also mention of limited coverage of unit vectors in their current studies, which may affect their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A cube has an edge length of 2.0m. At each corner there is a different spherical mass. The masses are 1kg, 2kg, 3kg, 4kg, etc. u to 8kg. They Coordinate system: 1kg is at the origin and the 4kg, 2kg, and 8kg masses lie on the positive x, y, and z axis respectively. What is the net gravitational force acting on the 1kg mass? (magnitude and direction)

(I know I don't have an image, but it won't let me insert one and at the point I'm at, I think I'm past needing the image)

Homework Equations


To find the force each mass is putting on the 1kg mass, I used equation:
F = G m1m2/r2
where G is 6.67 * 10-11 and r is the distance between 2 objects.

I substituted 1 for m1 and 2 for r, coming up with simplified equation:
F = (6.67*10-11) (m2) / 4

The Attempt at a Solution


I used that equation to find the x, y, and z components of every force.
I then added to find [tex]\Sigma[/tex]x, [tex]\Sigma[/tex]y, and [tex]\Sigma[/tex]z.
I got:
[tex]\Sigma[/tex]x = 3.0015 * 10-10
[tex]\Sigma[/tex]y = 2.668 * 10-10
[tex]\Sigma[/tex]z = 4.3355 * 10-10

My question is, what do I do now to find the total magnitude of the force?
Once I get that, how do I find the angle / direction of the force?

If I were to use the 3-d distance equation, how would I find the angle?
I'm completely stuck, so any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks so much guys, this is my first day on the site so I don't quite know what I'm doing! (:
 
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is no one answering because my wording is way off or is it something else? just wondering!
 
welcome to pf!

hi harrysawizard! welcome to pf! :smile:

(have a sigma: ∑ :wink:)
harrysawizard said:
My question is, what do I do now to find the total magnitude of the force?
Once I get that, how do I find the angle / direction of the force?

you've found Fx Fy and Fz

so the force is the vector (Fx,Fy,Fz) …

its magnitude is √(Fx2 + Fy2 + Fz2), and for the unit vector of the direction, just divide by the magnitude! :wink:

(btw, you can't generally expect quick answers here … people are asleep, or doing something … you should give it 24 hours before worrying)
 
thanks so much for all your help!
i used the distance formula for 3 dimensions and get 5.9096 * 10-10 to be the final magnitude.

We've only covered a bit of unit vectors in math, and we haven't touched them at all in physics, so how would I use them to find the direction?

When it's just 2 dimensions that I'm finding the net force of, I'll break the vector down into x and y and use the inverse tangent to find [tex]\Theta[/tex], but I just don't understand how to approach it in 3 dimensions.
 
hi harrysawizard! :smile:

(have a theta: θ :wink:)
harrysawizard said:
… When it's just 2 dimensions that I'm finding the net force of, I'll break the vector down into x and y and use the inverse tangent to find [tex]\Theta[/tex], but I just don't understand how to approach it in 3 dimensions.

You could use Euler angles (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_angles" ), but i don't think anybody does for something like this …

you either specify the unit vector, or you just leave it as (Fx,Fy,Fz)
 
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