How Do You Calculate the Slope Angle of a Road When a Car Ascends?

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The problem involves calculating the slope angle of a road as a car ascends while considering forces such as air resistance and gravitational components. The context includes the car's weight, speed, and power output from the engine.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between power, air resistance, and gravitational forces. There are attempts to express the work done against gravity and air resistance in terms of the slope angle.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between forces and power, while others are exploring different interpretations of the equations involved. There is an ongoing examination of how to incorporate gravity and air resistance into the calculations.

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Participants are navigating through the assumptions regarding the forces acting on the car, including the direction of air resistance and the component of weight along the incline. There is also mention of the need to clarify the setup of the problem and the definitions used.

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Homework Statement



A 1400kg car ascends a mountain road at a steady 60km/h. The force of air resistance on the car is 450N. If the car's engine supplies enough energy to the drive wheels at the rate of 38kW, what is the slope angle of the road?

m = 1400kg
F(air) = 450N
V=60km/h = 60000km/3600s = 16.667ms/
W(total) = 38000W
theta = ?

Homework Equations



W(total) = K(final) - K(initial)

K = 0.5mv^2


The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure how to start this problem, but here is my first attempt:

38000 = 0.5(1400)(16.6667^2) - 450cos(theta)

The number was not in the domain of cos. I'm stuck. Any ideas? Thanks!
 
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To move the car with a steady speed, it must overcome the component of weight along the inclined plane + the air resistance.
And the power = F*v.
What is the component of the weight along the inclined plane?
 
Where did you get -450cos(theta)? What does it represent? You want to say that power produced by the engine is equal to the power dissipated by air resistance and rate of work done against gravity to raise the car.
 
Hi everyone! Thanks for the responses.


You want to say that power produced by the engine is equal to the power dissipated by air resistance and rate of work done against gravity to raise the car.

Ah ok, I wasnt sure where to put gravity in the equation. As for the -450cos(theta), its the work done on the car. I assumed that it was a horizontal force and broke it down into the components.
 
the way I like thinking about it for gravity is like so;

you say that it's traveling at 16 2/3 m/s, so what distance is it traveling in the vertical distance for? by resolving, (with 16 + 2/3) as the hypotenuse, and finding the distance it travels upwards, all you need to do to find out the work done against gravity is multiply that distance against the force of gravity, which I imagine will look something like;

(for work done against gravity)

[tex]16\frac{2}{3} sin(\theta)1400 g[/tex]

do you see why this works?

Work done = force * distance moved in direction of that force because gravity is acting downwards, you need to find the direction traveled upwards!
 
Ah! So now all I have to do is find the direction of the air resistnace and put it all together in the work-energy theorem.
 
I set the equation 16.667sin(theta)1400(0.81) = 0.5(1400)(16.667^2) and got a theta of 9.8 degrees. Which is close to the answer.
 

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