Work of a car's engine as it moves up a slope

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The problem involves a car of mass 900 kg accelerating up a slope, with initial and final velocities provided, as well as the height of the slope and frictional force. Participants are discussing how to calculate the total work done by the car's engine during this motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to apply the work-energy theorem and considering the effects of friction and potential energy in their calculations. There is confusion regarding the use of velocities versus accelerations in the initial attempts.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on incorporating potential energy and friction into the calculations. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the correct application of the work-energy theorem.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a missing memo with the answer, and participants are questioning the setup and assumptions made in the initial attempts.

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Homework Statement


A car of mass 900 kg accelerates up a slope. The velocity of the car at the bottom of the slope is 5 m/s. By the time the car reaches the top of the slope, its velocity is 15 m/s. The slope is 8m high from the ground and has a length (radius - angled length - not base) of 500m. The average frictional force experienced by the car between A and B is 50N.

Calculate: The total work done by the car's engine between the bottom and top of the slope.

Homework Equations


F = ma
m = mass in kilograms
a = acceleration in m/s
F = force in Newtons
W = F x s
s = distance
W = work

The Attempt at a Solution



I am quite at a loss with this question but this is my attempt.
Fbottom = m x a = 900 x 5 = 4500N

Work (bottom) = f x s
= 4500 x 500 (slope is 500m)
= 2250000J

Ftop = F x ma
= 900 x 15
= 13500N
Work (top) = f x s
= 135000 x 500
= 6750000J

W (top) - W (bottom) = 450000J

I am sure that my answer is incorrect but I am unsure as to how to solve it and the memo is missing the answer, any help would be appreciated. Sorry for the n00b question! :)
 
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its acceleration is 15 m/s

There is a typo here somewhere, you mean its velocity is 15m/s?
 
Yeah, sorry about that!
 
It is difficult to follow your solution because you have inputted velocities in place of accelerations.
I think this is meant to be solved using the work-energy theorem, but also incorporating the effects of an external force, ie friction, so; W = \frac{1}{2}mv_f^2 - \frac{1}{2}mv_i^2 + F_f d = ΔK.E + F_f d, where F_f is the force of friction.
 
Don't forget the gain in PE as well as KE?
 
In taking into account the change in potential energy, i believe we add on, to the eqn above;
W = \vec{F}.\vec{d} = mgdcos(90 +θ) = -mgdsinθ

Apologies for forgetting that earlier, I must have done the problem ignoring the incline!
 

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