How Do You Calculate the Time and Speed of a Toy Car Falling Off a Table?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time and speed of a toy car that falls off a table, with the table height given as 1.325 m and the horizontal distance from the base as 0.425 m. Participants explore the physics of free fall and horizontal motion.

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  • Participants suggest using kinematic equations to find the time of fall and speed, questioning the need for acceleration and the relationship between vertical and horizontal motion. Some express confusion about the correct distance to use in calculations.

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There is ongoing exploration of different formulas and calculations, with some participants sharing their attempts and results. While some guidance has been offered regarding the use of specific equations, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final answers.

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Participants mention constraints such as the lack of a calculator for verification and the need for clarity on the initial conditions of the problem, including the initial velocities and the nature of the motion involved.

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A toy car runs off the edge of a table that is 1.325 m high. The car lands 0.425 m from the base of the table.

How long did it take to hit the ground?
How fast was the car going?

My tutor even had trouble with this, without a speed this is no solvable, at least to me. Suggestions on formulas? And you can't answer the second one without the first one, so any suggested formulas or words of wisdom?
 
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Calculate the time it takes the car to hit the ground first. Use the formula 0.5at^2 = distance. You know the distance the car fell is 1.325 m.

The speed of the car is simply (0.425m)/time.
 
So i do not have the time, or the acceleration. i can't calculate the acceleration because i don't have the mass of the car. I understand how to get the speed but I don't have the time so I don't know how to solve it. How can I find the acceleration?
 
I just dropped my pen, what was its acceleration while falling?
 
What's the acceleration due to gravity?
 
wow I'm stupid. but i tried this all
.5(9.8)t^2=1.325 and I got around 0.5. And this is still incorrect, should I not use the distance it fell horizontally or should I add both of the distances together?
 
merceb49 said:
wow I'm stupid. but i tried this all
.5(9.8)t^2=1.325 and I got around 0.5. And this is still incorrect, should I not use the distance it fell horizontally or should I add both of the distances together?

t=sqrt 2h/a
 
with that formula i got 0.3, assuming i did it correctly (t = sqrt of 2(.425)/9.8)
Is that not a ridiculous number?
 
merceb49 said:
with that formula i got 0.3, assuming i did it correctly (t = sqrt of 2(.425)/9.8)
Is that not a ridiculous number?

h=1.325, not .425
 
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Also, v_f^2 = v_i^2 +2ax
 
  • #11
sqrt of 2(1.325)/9.8=t=.5=fast?
 
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merceb49 said:
sqrt of 2(1.325)/9.8=t=.5=fast?

t = time, not velocity
 
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yeah I am trying to answer the first question, and i thank you for coping with my confusion... i understand the second question, i have to find how long it took to find the velocity but i still don't think .5 is the correct time
 
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a) v (vertical speed) = 0
vt+(1/2)*gt^2=s
t = sqrt (2s/g)

b)b) v = horizontal speed
vt+(1/2)at^2 = s
a = 0
v = s/t
 
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Does the answer key say otherwise? If not 0.520s is the correct time. Don't believe it, drop something from 1.3 m up and see how long it takes to fall to the ground. The initial velocity is only due to the distance the car moves in the horizontal position as there is no initial vertical velocity. The initial velocity, which is the horizontal velocity, is 0.818 m/s.

And get a better tutor.
 
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I don't have my calc. so i can't verify your answers, sorry.
 
  • #17
Bloodthunder said:
Does the answer key say otherwise? If not 0.520s is the correct time. Don't believe it, drop something from 1.3 m up and see how long it takes to fall to the ground. The initial velocity is only due to the distance the car moves in the horizontal position as there is no initial vertical velocity. The initial velocity, which is the horizontal velocity, is 0.818 m/s.

And get a better tutor.

Yes, you need a better tutor. I don't mind helping though.
 
  • #18
pr0blumz said:
I don't have my calc. so i can't verify your answers, sorry.

It should be right, I think, I did my calculations similar to what you posted earlier.
 
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i was keying it incorrectly, bloodthunder your correct. thank you for all the help on this problem
 
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merceb49 said:
i was keying it incorrectly, bloodthunder your correct. thank you for all the help on this problem

i guess your frustration got the best of ya.
 

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