How Do You Calculate the Total Energy of a Particle in Special Relativity?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total energy of a particle in the context of special relativity, given its rest energy, lifetime, and the distance it travels in a lab detector. Participants are exploring the relationships between energy, time dilation, and length contraction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to calculate the velocity of the particle and how to apply time dilation without knowing the velocity. They mention various relations that need to hold simultaneously, including total energy, time dilation, and length contraction.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the relationships between the variables involved, while others express confusion and seek clarification on how to proceed. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to relate the particle's properties in different reference frames.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem's parameters, including the proper time and the distance measured in the lab frame. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of relating these quantities through the principles of special relativity.

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Homework Statement



A particle has a rest energy of 1672MeV and a lifetime of 8.2x10^-11 s. It creates a .024m long track in a lab detector. What is the total energy of the particle

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Total Energy = mc^2 + mc^2(1 - A) where A is defined as the Gamma Factor...basically i need to calculate the velocity of the particle and I realize that the lifetime give is the proper time (life of the particle in its frame) and the distance is in the lab frame. So I need to distance/time and I want to convert the proper time to the time interval in the lab frame but how do i do time dilation without the velocity? Thanks
 
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You'll have to find a bunch of relations that have to hold simultaniously - so that you can cancel out v.
 
soo...what relations? I'm still stuck
 
1. total energy
2. time dilation
3. length contraction (related to 2)
4. relationship between distance and time in one reference frame
 
got it..thanks
 
No worries :)
 
Ugh nevermind lol I don't have it... and it's driving me crazy.

V= L/T = L'/T' and I know L and T'.

Time dilation says T=T'sqrt(1-A^2) where A is V/c

so i plug in V=L/(T'sqrt(1-A^2)) and solve for V but I get (V^2)(T')^2 - ((V^4)(T')^2)/c^2 = c^2

ahhhhhh
 
[edit] didn't read all the way ...

Well done.
Sometimes explaining why you have a problem produces the solution.

The particle travels distance L in the lab, in the particle's proper time T, then ##L=v\gamma T##
Since the total energy is ##E=\gamma E_0## I have two equations and two unknowns.

When I saw your problem, actually did it via length contraction ... to put everything in the particle's frame.
In that frame, the detector moves a distance ##L/\gamma## in time T - and you get the same equation out.

Notice how I constructed the relations from the physics rather than trying to find the "right" equation to manipulate?
 
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