How Do You Calculate the Total Translational Kinetic Energy of Oxygen Gas?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total translational kinetic energy of oxygen gas, specifically in the context of one liter at atmospheric pressure. Participants are exploring the relationship between average kinetic energy and total kinetic energy, referencing the ideal gas law and relevant formulas.

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  • Participants discuss the formula for average translational kinetic energy and question how to derive the total kinetic energy from it. There is a focus on the number of molecules and how to calculate it based on volume and pressure.

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Several participants have provided insights into the relationship between average and total kinetic energy, with some suggesting the use of the ideal gas law to find the number of molecules. There is an ongoing exploration of how to apply these concepts to the specific problem at hand.

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Participants are working with the assumption of ideal gas behavior and are considering the implications of temperature and pressure in their calculations. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the definitions and formulas related to total kinetic energy.

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Compute the total translational kinetic energy of one liter of oxygen gas at atmospheric pressure.

<E>=3/2 kT

assuming that the T is about the temperature of Earth's surface, 300K, then:

[tex]\frac{1}{2} mv^2 = \frac{3k(300K)}{2}[/tex]

what I am wondering is, is this the total translational kinetic energy? I think the book defines it as the average energy but does not give a formula for total translational kinetic energy.
 
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That indeed is the formula for average translational kinetic energy, however, I have not come across any formula for the total kinetic energy of a gas.
 
Would it not be just 3/2NkT?
 
dav2008 said:
Would it not be just 3/2NkT?

Ahh indeed I forgot, I've just dug out my old physics textbook now:biggrin:
 
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dav2008 said:
Would it not be just 3/2NkT?

what is N?
 
N is the number of molecules.

I mean it makes sense that if the average translational kinetic energy of each molecule is 3/2kT then to get the total energy you would just multiply by the total number of molecules.
 
how would I determine how many molecules are in 1 liter of oxygen? and how would one take into account the temperature when it is given inpressure?
 
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Are you familiar with the ideal gas law?

PV=NkT

P=pressure in pascals, V=volume in m3.

Since you know the pressure and the volume, and you are looking for the term "3/2NkT" I think you can see how you can get it.
 
PV=NkT

1 liter= 0.001m3

[tex]E= \frac{3}{2} (101.3kPa)(0.001m^3)[/tex]

would ths be correct?
 
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This is what i got;

[tex]pV=NkT[/tex]

[tex]\frac{2}{3}E = kT[/tex]

[tex]pV = N\frac{2}{3}E[/tex]

[tex]E = \frac{3pV}{2N}[/tex]

I think you've just missed out the number of molecules

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-Hoot
 

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