How do you calculate total heat capacity for a house/wall?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the total heat capacity of a house or wall by considering the individual heat capacities of its components. Participants explore the implications of using a lumped parameter model and the complexities involved in modeling thermal behavior.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about calculating total heat capacity using a lumped parameter model and questions whether thermal capacitances add like capacitors in parallel.
  • Another participant challenges the simplicity of the approach, suggesting that thermal mass contributions may differ between the inside and outside of a wall.
  • A participant clarifies their focus on heat capacity for approximating the time constant of a room, acknowledging the complexity of having series and parallel components in the wall's construction.
  • There is a suggestion that insulation layers might be disregarded in the calculation, along with external components.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit differing views on the appropriateness of the lumped parameter model and the treatment of thermal components, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the simplifications involved in the model, particularly concerning the contributions of different layers and the assumptions made about thermal resistance and capacitance.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in thermal modeling, building physics, or those seeking to understand the complexities of heat capacity in constructed environments.

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I was wondering how I might be able to calculate the total heat capacity for a house given the individual heat capacities of the components.

For example, if I take a given wall and break it down into its components for a lumped parameter model, I'll have some thermal capacitances in in parallel. In the circuit analogy, they would be drawn as capacitors. Do these add like capacitors in a circuit would (algebraically for parallel, inversely for series)? I don't imagine I'd have any capacitances in series because each component has an RC pair in parallel...

I realize that a lumped parameter model is not realistic for a wall (the Biot # would be huge), however I'm more interested in the differential equations application of this.

Thanks.
 
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Do you really mean heat capacity or thermal resistance/conductance?

I doubt its as simple as parallel vs series. For example thermal mass on the outside might not contribute as much as thermal mass on the inside.
 
I really mean heat capacity; I'm trying to get a very crude approximation of the time constant for the room. Essentially I'm trying to model it as a lumped parameter system with resistance and capacitance. The problem is that I've got series and parallel components due to the construction of the wall. I was thinking I might be able to simplify it down further, but it would seem that I've got to treat each RC pair as its own system within a larger system.

I suppose this is why most people use computational thermal mechanics programs for stuff like this.
 
If there is a layer of insulation you can probably ignore that and anything outside it.
 

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