How Do You Calculate Uncertainty δd in Bragg Scattering?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the uncertainty δd in the context of Bragg scattering, specifically using the formula d = C_1 (1/√V)(1/D). Participants are exploring the implications of uncertainties in measured values D and V, as well as the constants involved in the equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive δd using a formula involving the uncertainties of D and V. Some participants question the setup and suggest that the relationship should consider the inverse proportionality of d to √V. Others inquire whether different equations yield the same uncertainty formula.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights and clarifications regarding the uncertainty calculations. There is a recognition of the need to verify the correctness of the approach, and some guidance has been provided regarding the formulation of the uncertainty expression.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the specific uncertainties associated with the measurements of D and V, as well as the context of the Bragg scattering lab, which may impose certain constraints on the discussion.

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My goal is to find the uncertainty δd in the following equation.

d=C_1 \frac{1}{\sqrt{V}} \frac{1}{D}

  • C_1 is the collection of constants \frac{2Lhc}{\sqrt{2m_e c^2 }}
  • D is a value measured in meters with an uncertainty δD = 0.001 m
  • and V is a value measured in volts with an uncertainty δV = 100 V

My best guess on how to calculate δd is

\frac{δd}{d}=|C_1| \sqrt{(\frac{δV}{V})^2+(\frac{δD}{D})^2 }
... then plug in all the known values and solve for δd

...Unfortunately I have no resources to tell me if I'm doing this right. I appreciate any helpful pointers any of you may have, I'm a big time noob when it comes to error analysis.

For those of you who are curious, this is from a Bragg Scattering lab and d represents the distance between atoms in a polycrystalline graphite crystal.
 
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UncertaintyMan said:
My goal is to find the uncertainty δd in the following equation.

d=C_1 \frac{1}{\sqrt{V}} \frac{1}{D}

  • C_1 is the collection of constants \frac{2Lhc}{\sqrt{2m_e c^2 }}
  • D is a value measured in meters with an uncertainty δD = 0.001 m
  • and V is a value measured in volts with an uncertainty δV = 100 V

My best guess on how to calculate δd is

\frac{δd}{d}=|C_1| \sqrt{(\frac{δV}{V})^2+(\frac{δD}{D})^2 }
... then plug in all the known values and solve for δd

...Unfortunately I have no resources to tell me if I'm doing this right. I appreciate any helpful pointers any of you may have, I'm a big time noob when it comes to error analysis.

For those of you who are curious, this is from a Bragg Scattering lab and d represents the distance between atoms in a polycrystalline graphite crystal.
d is inversely prop. to √(V) , not V itself.

You should have something like:
\displaystyle \frac{δd}{d}=|C_1| \sqrt{\left(\frac{δ(\sqrt{V})}{\sqrt{V}}\right)^2+\left(\frac{δD}{D} \right)^2 }​
 
Awesome, thank you!

Quick side question: is it true that both of these equations have the same δd formula?

Equation 1. d = \sqrt{V}D
Equation 2. d = \frac{1}{\sqrt{V}D}

Error for either equation:
\frac{δd}{d} = \sqrt{(\frac{δ(\sqrt{V})}{\sqrt{V}})^2 + (\frac{δD}{D})^2}
 
UncertaintyMan said:
Awesome, thank you!

Quick side question: is it true that both of these equations have the same δd formula?

Equation 1. d = \sqrt{V}D
Equation 2. d = \frac{1}{\sqrt{V}D}

Error for either equation:
\frac{δd}{d} = \sqrt{(\frac{δ(\sqrt{V})}{\sqrt{V}})^2 + (\frac{δD}{D})^2}

Yes, for reasonably small relative error.
 

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