How Do You Calculate Unknown Charges in an Electric Field Problem?

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The discussion revolves around calculating unknown charges in an electric field problem involving two opposite charges, Q1 and Q2, separated by a distance. An electron is released between the charges, and the problem requires determining the magnitude and sign of both charges based on the electron's motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the method of calculating the electric field and the forces acting on the electron. There are questions about the appropriateness of using the midpoint for calculations and whether the method applied is sound.

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Some participants have offered guidance on considering the contributions of both charges to the electric field and have questioned the assumptions made regarding the uniformity of the electric field. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored.

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There is an emphasis on the need to account for both charges in the calculations, and participants are navigating through the implications of their assumptions regarding the electric field's behavior between the charges.

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Homework Statement


There are two opposite charges of equal magnetude, Q1 and Q2 separated by 4m. There is a central segment of 0.1m AB located centrally between the two charges AB. The electric field between AB can be taken as uniform. An electron is released with negligable speed at A and passes B 0.015 s later. Find the magnitude and sign of both Q1 and Q2.

Homework Equations


[tex]s=ut+\frac{1}{2}at^{2}[/tex] [tex]F_{el}=am_{e}[/tex] so [tex]a=\frac{F_{el}}{m_{e}}=\frac{q\mathcal{E}}{m_{e}}=\frac{-e\mathcal{E}}{m_{e}}[/tex][tex]F_{el}=k\frac{\left|q\right|\left|Q\right|}{r^{2}}[/tex] where [tex]k=\frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}}=8.988\times10^{9}\,\textrm{N}\,\textrm{m}^{2}\,\textrm{C}^{-2}[/tex][tex]\mathcal{E}=\frac{m_{e}a}{-e}[/tex][tex]m_{e}=9.109\times10^{-31}\,\textrm{kg}[/tex][tex]e=-1.602\times10^{-19}\,\textrm{C}[/tex]

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Taking the positive x direction as the direction of the electron,
we can find the acceleration by

[tex]a=\frac{2s}{t^{2}}=\frac{2\times0.1\,\textrm{m}}{(0.015\,\textrm{s})^{2}}=888.89\,\textrm{m}\,\textrm{s}^{2}[/tex]The electric field is[tex]\mathcal{E}=\frac{am_{e}}{e}=\frac{888.89\,\textrm{m}\,\textrm{s}^{2}\times9.109\times10^{-31}\,\textrm{kg}}{-1.602\times10^{-19}\,\textrm{C}}=-5.054\times10^{-9}\,\textrm{N}\,\textrm{C}^{-1}[/tex]The distance from Q2 to be is 1.95 m so the force at B is[tex]F_{el}=q\mathcal{E}=-1.602\times10^{-19}\,\textrm{C}\times-5.054\times10^{-9}\,\textrm{N}\,\textrm{C}^{-1}=8.097\times10^{-28}\,\textrm{N}[/tex]Using Coulumb's law and rearranging we find the charge[tex]\left|Q\right|=\frac{F_{el}r^{2}}{k\left|q\right|}=\frac{8.097\times10^{-28}\,\textrm{N}\times(1.95\,\textrm{m})^{2}}{8.988\times10^{9}\,\textrm{N}\,\textrm{m}^{2}\,\textrm{C}^{-2}\times1.602\times10^{-19}\,\textrm{C}}=2.138\times10^{-18}\,\textrm{C}[/tex]

As the electron is traveling toward B we can tell that Q2 is +ve.

Does what I have done look ok?
 
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Why not take the midpoint between your charges as the place where the field is the average value, and find |Q| from that?
 
Good point

[tex] \left|Q\right|=\frac{F_{el}r^{2}}{k\left|q\right|} =\frac{8.097\times10^{-28}\,\textrm{N}\times(2.00\,\textrm{m})^{2}}{8.988 \times10^{9}\,\textrm{N}\,\textrm{m}^{2}\,\textrm{ C}^{-2}\times1.602\times10^{-19}\,\textrm{C}}=2.249\times10^{-18}\,\textrm{C}[/tex]

What I wanted to know was if my method was sound.
 
Remember that there are two charges Q involved. Each will produce a force of magnitude Fel at the center point. Otherwise, your method looks good.
 

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