How do you complete the square when two variable are included?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves the equation x^2 + y^2 - 4x + 10y + 13 = 0, which the original poster seeks to show represents a circle. The task includes finding the center and radius of the circle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the process of completing the square for both x and y variables, with some seeking hints on how to handle the y terms specifically. There is also a question about the standard form of a circle's equation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on grouping terms and completing the square for both variables. The discussion has progressed with attempts to clarify the steps involved, though there is no explicit consensus on the final outcome.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions that this problem is to be turned in at the beginning of class, indicating a time constraint. There is also a lack of knowledge regarding the standard form of a circle's equation among some participants.

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Show that the equation

x^2+y^2-4x+10y+13=0

represents a circle. Find the center and radius.

This problem is to be turned in at the beginning of class
 
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I know how to complete the square in a basic x^2+(1/2)x+2=0. If i could just get a hint as to how to deal with the y variable, that would help
 
Use the same process on the y terms as you are doing on the x terms.
 
Do you know whatthe form of the equation for a circle is?
 
No i do not know the form
 
Here's your equation:
x2 + y2 - 4x + 10y + 13=0

Group the x terms together and the y terms together.
x2 - 4x + y2 + 10y= -13

Complete the square in the x terms and complete the square in the y terms.

One form for the equation of a circle is (x - a)2 + (y - b)2 = r2. This circle's center is at (a, b) and its radius is r. That's the form you're shooting for.
 
Thank you so much for the help.
 
I solved it and came up with (x-2)^2+(y+5)^2=16 meaning the center is at (2,-5) and the radius=4. Is this what you came up with as well?
 
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prosoccer747 said:
I solved it and came up with (x-2)^2+(y+5)^2=16 meaning the center is at (2,-5) and the radius=4. Is this what you came up with as well?

That should be correct.
 

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