Solving a Quadratic Equation with Two Variables

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The discussion revolves around solving the quadratic equation X^2 - yx + y^2 - 7 = 0, which involves two variables, x and y. Participants are attempting to manipulate the equation to express y in terms of x, exploring methods such as completing the square and applying the quadratic formula.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss completing the square with two variables and express difficulties due to the presence of y. Some inquire about the complete problem statement and what is expected in terms of solving for y. Others reference a prior differential equation that led to the current quadratic form and seek to transform their solution into the required format.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking clarification on the problem setup. Some have provided guidance on how to approach the equation, particularly in terms of completing the square and using the quadratic formula, but no consensus has been reached on a final method or solution.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the interpretation of the problem and the necessary steps to isolate y. Participants are also addressing the need for the solution to be expressed in a specific form, which adds complexity to their attempts.

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Homework Statement


X^2-yx+y^2-7=0

Homework Equations



-b +- sqrt(b^2-4ac)/2a

The Attempt at a Solution


Trying to complete the square with two variables
(x^2-yx)+(y^2)=7

(X^2-yx+y/2)+y^2=7
Where else from here. I'm just having problems because of the y variable
 
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Ashley1nOnly said:

Homework Statement


X^2-yx+y^2-7=0
What's the complete problem statement? IOW, what are you supposed to do here?
Ashley1nOnly said:

Homework Equations



-b +- sqrt(b^2-4ac)/2a

The Attempt at a Solution


Trying to complete the square with two variables
(x^2-yx)+(y^2)=7

(X^2-yx+y/2)+y^2=7
Where else from here. I'm just having problems because of the y variable
 
The original equation was a differential equation
(2x-y)dx+(2y-X)dy= 0
Which I solved and got
X^2-yx+y^2=7

It took the form of
M(X,y)dx+N(X,y)=0

M(partial y)= N(partial X)

So it had an exact solution
I then continued the rest of the steps and got my final answer but it needs to be in terms of y.

The final answer is

Y=[x+sqrt(28-3x^2)]/2, |x|<sqrt(28/3)

I'm trying to transform my answer into their final answer.
 
I need help completing the squares so that I can use the quadratic equation to solve for y.
 
Ashley1nOnly said:
I need help completing the squares so that I can use the quadratic equation to solve for y.
You need y as function of x. So write y2-yx+x2-7 in form (y-x/2)2+f(x)
 
@Ashley1nOnly, your first post should have started like this:

Homework Statement


Solve for y in the equation X^2-yx+y^2-7=0

Homework Equations



-b +- sqrt(b^2-4ac)/2a
One other thing -- what you wrote above would be interpreted by most as
$$-b \pm \frac{\sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2} a$$
 
Ashley1nOnly said:

Homework Statement


X^2-yx+y^2-7=0

Homework Equations



-b +- sqrt(b^2-4ac)/2a

The Attempt at a Solution


Trying to complete the square with two variables
(x^2-yx)+(y^2)=7

(X^2-yx+y/2)+y^2=7
Where else from here. I'm just having problems because of the y variable

You have an equation of the form ##y^2 + b y + c = 0##, with appropriate ##b## and ##c##. The solution forms
$$y_1 = \frac{-b + \sqrt{b^2 - 4 c}}{2} , \; y_2 = \frac{-b - \sqrt{b^2 - 4 c}}{2} $$
will give you the answer. It does not matter if ##b,c## are numerical constants, or if they are 1000-page formulas containing 500 other variables; as long as they do not contain ##y##, the quadratic solution formula holds and you are good to go.
 
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