How Do You Correctly Cancel Angular Momentum in Physics Problems?

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The discussion revolves around the cancellation of angular momentum in a physics problem involving a sphere's translational and rotational motion. Participants explore the relationship between linear and angular momentum, particularly in the context of a Coursera course problem.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of maximum height and the expressions for translational and rotational angular momentum. There are questions about the validity of the calculations and the interpretation of the problem's parameters.

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Some participants express agreement with the calculations presented, while others question the correctness of the results based on feedback from the course. There is an ongoing exploration of potential discrepancies and the reliability of the course material.

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Homework Statement
A ball with mass ##m## and diameter ##D## is thrown with speed ##v## at an angle ##\theta## with the horizontal from a height ##h_i##. How much spin (in rad/s) must the thrower impart on the ball so that at its maximum height, it has no angular momentum with respect to a point on the ground directly beneath the ball?
Relevant Equations
##v_f^2 = v_i^2 + 2a\Delta h##
##L = I\omega##
##L = \vec r \times \vec p##
First, we calculate the maximum height using the first equation, noting that at maximum height, the velocity is purely horizontal with speed ##v\cos\theta##, and with initial vertical speed ##v\sin\theta##:

$$
\begin{align}
v_f^2 &= v_i^2 - 2g(h_f - h_i) \\
0 &= (v\sin\theta)^2 - 2g(h_f - h_i) \\
h_f &= \frac{(v\sin\theta)^2}{2g} + h_i
\end{align}
$$

The angular momentum from translation is given by ##L_t = \vec r \times \vec p = h_f\hat j \times mv\cos\theta\hat i = -h_fmv\cos\theta\hat k##. The moment of inertia of a sphere is ##I = \frac 2 5 mR^2## where ##R = \frac D 2##, and its angular momentum due to spin is ##L_s = I\omega##.

We need these to cancel, so

$$
\begin{align}
L_t + L_s &= 0 \\
-h_fmv\cos\theta + \frac 2 5 mR^2\omega &= 0 \\
\omega &= \frac{h_fmv\cos\theta}{\frac 2 5 mR^2} \\
&= \frac{5h_fv\cos\theta}{2R^2}
\end{align}
$$

The problem uses ##m = 625g##, ##D = 22.9cm##, ##\theta = 45^\circ##, ##v=5m/s## and ##h_i = 1.5m##. Using these values I get a spin of about ##1440.82##, in rad/s.
 
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Your answer agrees with mine.
 
pbnj said:
Using these values I get a spin of about 1440.82, in rad/s.
Have you a reason to doubt it?
 
haruspex said:
Have you a reason to doubt it?
It's for a Coursera course, and it tells me it's incorrect. I've tried incrementing/decrementing my answer by 5 a few times, I tried using 2 sigfigs for everything, I tried assuming "diameter" meant "radius," but no luck. On the discussion forum there are no questions about this particular answer (the course is 3 years old, and it doesn't seem like new posts get replies). If my approach is correct and my calculations are correct, I can only assume something in the backend changed in the 3 years between then and now.
 

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