How Do You Correctly Cancel Angular Momentum in Physics Problems?

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To correctly cancel angular momentum in physics problems, one must calculate the maximum height using the appropriate equations, noting that at this height, the velocity is purely horizontal. The angular momentum from translation is derived from the position and momentum, while the moment of inertia for a sphere is used to find its angular momentum due to spin. Setting the total angular momentum to zero allows for the calculation of the spin rate, which, based on the provided parameters, results in a spin of approximately 1440.82 rad/s. Despite the calculations appearing correct, there are concerns about discrepancies with course feedback, suggesting potential changes in the course material over time. This highlights the importance of verifying calculations against updated course standards or guidelines.
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Homework Statement
A ball with mass ##m## and diameter ##D## is thrown with speed ##v## at an angle ##\theta## with the horizontal from a height ##h_i##. How much spin (in rad/s) must the thrower impart on the ball so that at its maximum height, it has no angular momentum with respect to a point on the ground directly beneath the ball?
Relevant Equations
##v_f^2 = v_i^2 + 2a\Delta h##
##L = I\omega##
##L = \vec r \times \vec p##
First, we calculate the maximum height using the first equation, noting that at maximum height, the velocity is purely horizontal with speed ##v\cos\theta##, and with initial vertical speed ##v\sin\theta##:

$$
\begin{align}
v_f^2 &= v_i^2 - 2g(h_f - h_i) \\
0 &= (v\sin\theta)^2 - 2g(h_f - h_i) \\
h_f &= \frac{(v\sin\theta)^2}{2g} + h_i
\end{align}
$$

The angular momentum from translation is given by ##L_t = \vec r \times \vec p = h_f\hat j \times mv\cos\theta\hat i = -h_fmv\cos\theta\hat k##. The moment of inertia of a sphere is ##I = \frac 2 5 mR^2## where ##R = \frac D 2##, and its angular momentum due to spin is ##L_s = I\omega##.

We need these to cancel, so

$$
\begin{align}
L_t + L_s &= 0 \\
-h_fmv\cos\theta + \frac 2 5 mR^2\omega &= 0 \\
\omega &= \frac{h_fmv\cos\theta}{\frac 2 5 mR^2} \\
&= \frac{5h_fv\cos\theta}{2R^2}
\end{align}
$$

The problem uses ##m = 625g##, ##D = 22.9cm##, ##\theta = 45^\circ##, ##v=5m/s## and ##h_i = 1.5m##. Using these values I get a spin of about ##1440.82##, in rad/s.
 
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Your answer agrees with mine.
 
pbnj said:
Using these values I get a spin of about 1440.82, in rad/s.
Have you a reason to doubt it?
 
haruspex said:
Have you a reason to doubt it?
It's for a Coursera course, and it tells me it's incorrect. I've tried incrementing/decrementing my answer by 5 a few times, I tried using 2 sigfigs for everything, I tried assuming "diameter" meant "radius," but no luck. On the discussion forum there are no questions about this particular answer (the course is 3 years old, and it doesn't seem like new posts get replies). If my approach is correct and my calculations are correct, I can only assume something in the backend changed in the 3 years between then and now.
 
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