How Do You Derive the Acceleration of a Conical Pendulum?

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The problem involves deriving an expression for the acceleration of a conical pendulum, focusing on the relationship between gravitational field strength, pendulum length, circular path radius, and oscillation frequency. Participants are asked to construct a free-body diagram and derive the necessary equations without numerical values.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the pendulum, including gravity and tension, and the need to express acceleration in terms of variables rather than numerical values. There is an emphasis on resolving forces and understanding their directions.

Discussion Status

Some participants are clarifying the format required for the discussion and are exploring the relationships between forces and acceleration. Guidance has been offered regarding the direction of acceleration and the need to resolve forces, but no consensus on the derivation has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the requirement to derive expressions using variables only, without numerical values, which may influence their approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement


For a conical pendulum:

Construct a free-body diagram for the pendulum and derive an expression for the acceleration in terms of the gravitational field strength g, the length L of the pendulum, the radius r of the circular path of the pendulum, and the frequency f of oscillation. (Hint - first derive an expression for tanθ the angle between the string and the vertical.)
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Homework Equations


a=v^2/r
a=Δv/Δt
a=ƩF/m

The Attempt at a Solution


Have done free body diagram, can't figure out how to make equation.
 
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There is a specific format you are supposed to use on this forum.
What do you have for the forces - just describe them, don't worry about a diagram.
What do you have for the acceleration?
 
Thank you for replying; didn't see I had to use that form.
As for forces there is the force of gravity on the pendulum mass (downwards), and the tension in the string.
As for the acceleration - I have no numerical value for it. The question needs no actual values - just variables to make the equation (a in terms of g, L, r, and f).
 
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Thank you for replying; didn't see I had to use that form.
As for forces there is the force of gravity on the pendulum mass (downwards), and the tension in the string.
As for the acceleration - I have no numerical value for it. The question needs no actual values - just variables to make the equation (a in terms of g, L, r, and f).
True, but you do know the direction the acceleration has to be in. So in what directions would you resolve the forces, and what equations result?
 

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