How Do You Derive the Angular Momentum Equation from Rutherford Scattering?

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The discussion focuses on deriving the angular momentum equation from the principles of Rutherford scattering. The key equation established is L = mr^2(dθ/dt), where L represents angular momentum, m is mass, r is the radius, and dθ/dt is the angular velocity. The participants clarify that only the tangential component of velocity contributes to angular momentum, while the radial component results in zero due to the parallel nature of the vectors involved. The final expression for angular momentum is confirmed as L = mr x (dr/dt r_hat + r dx/dt x_hat).

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d(chi)/dt =l/(mr^2), I don't see how to get there

if you use the definition of angular momentum, you get l=r x mv(vectors where appropriate)

so you can write v as v=dr/dt*r + rdx/dt*x where x is the symbol chi(close enough)and that r and x at the end of the two expressions are unit vectors

So you can write the magnitude of l=|mr*v| where v is as above. Then I'm stumped
 
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Only the tangential part of v contributes to L ... it is ANGULAR momentum.
the radial part has r x (dr/dt)r_hat = 0 .
So, with the angular part, as you say, L = r m r dtheta/dt
=> dtheta/dt = L/mr^2 .
 
Okokok I think you cleared it up

So to write it out completely, L=mr x (dr/dtr_hat+rdx/dtx_hat)

There's a distributive property for the cross product, right? So you get mr x dr/dtr_hat, and r and r_hat are parallel so it's 0, and you're left with L=mr x r dx/dtx_hat, the magnitude of which is mr^2dx/dt?
 

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