How Do You Determine the Equation of a Plane Given Points and a Parallel Line?

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The discussion revolves around determining the equation of a plane given two points and a parallel line. Participants explore the mathematical relationships and vector operations involved in deriving the plane's equation, focusing on the use of normal vectors and cross products.

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  • One participant presents the initial conditions for the plane and formulates equations based on the points and the normal vector requirement.
  • Another participant suggests using the cross product of two vectors in the plane to find a normal vector, which will serve as the coefficients for the plane's equation.
  • A question arises regarding the derivation of the two vectors used for the cross product, prompting further clarification on how they were identified.
  • It is noted that one vector is derived from the direction of the parallel line, while the other is obtained from the difference between the two given points.

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Participants generally agree on the approach of using vectors and the cross product to find the normal vector of the plane. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the identification of the vectors used in the calculations.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the linear independence of the vectors chosen and the dependence on the specific points and line provided. There is also a lack of consensus on the clarity of how the vectors were derived.

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Hey! :o

Find an equation for the plane that passes through $(3, 2, -1)$ and $(1, -1, 2)$ and that is parallel to the line $\overrightarrow{v}=(1, -1, 0)+t(3, 2, -2)$.

The general formula of the equation on the plane is $$Ax+By+Cz+D=0$$

where $(A, B, C)$ is a perpendicular.

Since the plane passes through $(3, 2, -1)$ and $(1, -1, 2)$ we have that
$$3A+2B-C+D=0 \\ A-B+2C+D=0 $$

Also $$(A, B, C) \cdot (3, 2, -2)=0 \Rightarrow 3A+2B-2C=0$$

Is this correct so far??
 
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Two vectors in the plane are (3, 2, -2) and (2, 3, -3), so take their cross product to get a normal vector to the plane. This will be the coefficients of the plane. You can find the last parameter by substituting in the point (1, -1, 0) which you know lies on the plane.
 
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Two vectors in the plane are (3, 2, -2) and (2, 3, -3), so take their cross product to get a normal vector to the plane. This will be the coefficients of the plane. You can find the last parameter by substituting in the point (1, -1, 0) which you know lies on the plane.

How did you find the two vectors of the plan (3, 2, -2) and (2, 3, -3) ?? (Wondering)
 
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How did you find the two vectors of the plan (3, 2, -2) and (2, 3, -3) ?? (Wondering)

He found $(3,2,-2)$ by realizing that the line is parallel to it, and the second vector is the vector produced by the two given points. $(3,2,-1) - (1,-1,2) = (2,3,-3)$. It suffices to take any two linearly independent vectors that are parallel to the plane to find the normal.
 
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