How Do You Differentiate Complex Functions Like y=sin(lnx) and Others?

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The discussion revolves around differentiating complex functions, specifically focusing on examples like y=sin(ln(x)) and y=10^(x^2-sin(x)). Participants are exploring the application of differentiation rules, particularly the chain rule, in these contexts.

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  • Participants express uncertainty about applying differentiation techniques, particularly the chain rule, to functions involving logarithms and trigonometric functions. There are attempts to relate different functions and their derivatives, with some participants questioning how to effectively use logarithmic differentiation.

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Some participants have offered insights into the chain rule and its application, suggesting that understanding one function's derivative can aid in finding another's. However, there is no explicit consensus on the methods to be used, and multiple interpretations of the problems are being explored.

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Participants mention needing to apply logarithmic properties and express confusion regarding the exact application of these concepts in their differentiation tasks. There is also a reference to previous questions that may influence their understanding.

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10. y=sin(lnx) find y'

im not sure how to do this, the previews question was actually with y=ln(sinx), which i know how to do, but not this one.

I know that the derivative of lnx is 1/x and the derivative of sinx=cosx



16.y=10[(x)2-sinx] find y'

PD: that is 10 to the power of (x2-sinx)



i know i should put a ln at both sides of the equation to use logarithmic differentiation, i know the logarithm properties. However, i don't know how should i apply all of that exactly.



EDIT: i also need help finding y' in y=x3-ln(x/e)


Thanks.
 
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The questions are very similar. The rule is known as the chain rule. The best way to describe is that you chain your way from the outside to the inside. If you know how to find y' for:
[itex]y = ln(sin(x))[/itex]

Then you know how to find y' for:
[itex]y = sin(ln(x))[/itex]

For the chain rule, if you have:
[itex]u = f(g(x))[/itex]
[itex]\frac{du}{dx} = \frac{df}{dg} \frac{dg}{dx}[/itex]

Does this help at all?
 
Ignea_unda said:
The questions are very similar. The rule is known as the chain rule. The best way to describe is that you chain your way from the outside to the inside. If you know how to find y' for:
[itex]y = ln(sin(x))[/itex]

Then you know how to find y' for:
[itex]y = sin(ln(x))[/itex]

For the chain rule, if you have:
[itex]u = f(g(x))[/itex]
[itex]\frac{du}{dx} = \frac{df}{dg} \frac{dg}{dx}[/itex]

Does this help at all?


well yeah, all of the qustions kinda looked to chain rules like me, maybe not so ''strongly'' but they did.

Thanks.
 
No worries. Sometimes it just takes a fresh glance to see it.

Glad I could help.
 

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