How Do You Prove a = 4R/sqrt(3) in a Body-Centered Cubic Structure?

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The discussion revolves around proving the relationship a = 4R/sqrt(3) in the context of a body-centered cubic (BCC) crystal structure, where R represents the radius of the spheres and a denotes the edge length of the cubic cell.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the diagonal lengths in the cube and how to apply the Pythagorean theorem to relate the edge length a to the radius R. There are attempts to calculate the diagonal of the cube and its faces, with some confusion regarding the correct application of geometric principles.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the geometric relationships involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of the Pythagorean theorem, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach yet.

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One participant expresses uncertainty about their understanding of the diagonal lengths, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the geometric relationships in a cube compared to a square.

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This is for body-centered cubic crystal structure.

Homework Statement



Prove a = 4R/sqrt(3). R is the radius of sphere and a is the edge of the cell (cubic).
The image attached will be cut into cube so that 4 outter spheres' centers will be the edges of the cube, a.

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Well, the disagnal from the farthest two points are 4R.
I tried to use one face to calculate the diagnal edge of the face and form a triangle with 4R and sqrt(2) but it won't work.
Something is wrong...please help!
 

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Look at it this way, you've got the find the length of the cube diagonal which you know to be 4R. To find the cube diagonal you just have to apply pythagoras theorem twice. Firstly to find the base square diagonal, which you should get as sqrt(2). Then you find the cube diagonal using the base square diagonal and the height of the cube. Then just equate the 2 expressions.

Your image hasn't been approved yet so this is all I can say.
 
krnhseya said:
This is for body-centered cubic crystal structure.

Homework Statement



Prove a = 4R/sqrt(3). R is the radius of sphere and a is the edge of the cell (cubic).
The image attached will be cut into cube so that 4 outter spheres' centers will be the edges of the cube, a.

Homework Equations



n/a

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, the disagnal from the farthest two points are 4R.
I tried to use one face to calculate the diagnal edge of the face and form a triangle with 4R and sqrt(2) but it won't work.
Something is wrong...please help!
\sqrt{2}? No, of course that won't work. Were did you get \sqrt{2}? Perhaps you were thinking that the diagonals of a square, of side length a, have diagonal length a\sqrt{2}. But here you are dealing with a cube. To find the length of a diagonal, you have to apply the Pythagorean theorem again. The length of the diagonal from bottom vertex to the opposite bottom vertex is the length of the diagonal of one face, a square: a\sqrt{2}. But now you have a right triangle with base leg of lenth a\sqrt{2} and vertical leg (up to the opposite point of the cube) of length s. By the Pythagorean theorem, the diagonal length is \sqrt{2a^2+ a^2}= a\sqrt{3}.

Use that instead.
 
Wow...I've been thinking that a*sqrt(2) was hypotenuse...
I apologize for such a thread.
Thank you very much.
 

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