What Are the Ionic Radii of Mg2+ and O2- in MgO's Crystal Structure?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the determination of the ionic radii of Mg2+ and O2- in the crystal structure of magnesium oxide (MgO). Participants explore the relationship between the lattice structure of MgO, its density, and the calculations necessary to derive the ionic sizes, with a focus on the octahedral arrangement of ions.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that MgO has a lattice structure similar to NaCl, suggesting that Mg2+ ions occupy octahedral holes among O2- ions.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the sufficiency of data to determine individual ionic radii, suggesting that only the sum of the radii can be inferred.
  • A participant challenges the assumption that Mg2+ ions are located in the holes between O2- ions, arguing that this may not be universally applicable and depends on the relative sizes of the ions.
  • There is a correction regarding the mass of a 1 cm3 block of MgO, with participants noting inconsistencies in the calculations of mass based on density.
  • After recalculating using the correct mass, a participant arrives at new estimates for the ionic radii: approximately 149 pm for R (Mg2+) and 62 pm for r (O2-).
  • Another participant references a textbook (Zumdahl) that provides a geometric approximation for the relationship between the ionic radii, indicating that the derived relationship is based on certain assumptions about atomic packing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of assumptions made in the calculations, particularly regarding the positioning of ions and the sufficiency of data for determining individual ionic radii. No consensus is reached on these points.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the reliance on specific assumptions about ionic arrangements and the geometric relationships between ionic radii. The discussion highlights potential discrepancies in mass calculations based on density and the implications for determining ionic sizes.

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Homework Statement


Below is an image of a unit cell for MgO. Does MgO have the lattice structure of NaCl or ZnS? If the density of MgO, ##\rho## = 3,58g/cm3, evaluate the sizes of the radii of Mg2+- and O2--ions.

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Answers: 149pm and 62pm

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The Attempt at a Solution



Looking at the picture, MgO seems to have the lattice structure of NaCl. Therefore as an ionic solid it has octahedral holes in the middle of the larger ##O^{2-}##-ions, where the ##Mg^{2+}##-ions are located. A relationship between the radii of ions in an octahedral arrangement can be derived to be ##r = \sqrt{2}R - R \approx 0.414R##, where r is the radius of the smaller ion and R the radius of the larger ion.

We know ##\rho## = 3,58g/cm3. We also know from looking at the picture, that the unit cell contains 4 whole ##O^{2-}##-ions and 4 whole ##Mg^{2+}##-ions, since there is 1 whole Mg-ion in the middle of the cell (the O-ions are cut either in half or into eights by the edges of the cube if it is drawn, and the Mg-ions on the edges of the cube are cut into quarters).

Therefore if we take 1cm3 block of MgO, it's mass ##m = nM = \rho V_i##, where ##V_i## is the total volume of the ions in the unit cell.

Now ##\frac{V_{ions}}{V_{unit \ cell}} = \frac{4(\frac{4}{3}\pi R^3) + 4(\frac{4}{3}\pi r^3)}{(2R+2r)^3} \stackrel{r = \sqrt{2}R-R}{=} \frac{(19\sqrt{2}-27)\pi}{6\sqrt{2}-9} \approx 0,7931##.

If we then take ##1cm^3## block of MgO, its mass ##m = 0,7931 \rho V = 0,7931(3,58g/cm^3)(1cm^3) = 2,8393g##.

Now the amount of MgO in this sample is ##n = \frac{m}{M} = \frac{2.8393g}{40,3044 g/mol} = 0,07447mol##, and since the lattice structure of MgO is stoichiometric, meaning the ratios of ions is the lattice match the chemical formula, each unit cell contains 4 MgOs.

Since there are ##N = nN_A=(0,07447mol)(6,022\cdot 10^{23} 1/mol) \approx 4,2423 \cdot 10^{22}## MgOs in the sample and each unit cell contains 4 MgOs, the amount of unit cells in the sample is ##\frac{N}{4} = 1,0606 \cdot 10^{22}##.

This number is equal to the ratio ##\frac{V_{sample}}{V_{unit \ cell}} = \frac{1cm^3}{e^3} = \frac{N}{4} \iff e = \sqrt[3]{\frac{1cm^3}{N/4}} = 4,55148 \cdot 10^{-8}##.

Since the edge of the unit cell ##e = 2R + 2r = 2R + 2(\sqrt{2}R-R) = R(2+2\sqrt(2) - 2)\\
\iff R = \frac{e}{2\sqrt{2}} = \frac{4,55148 \cdot 10^{-8}}{2\sqrt{2}} = 1,60919 \cdot 10^{-8} cm##.

Therefore ##r = 0,414R = 0,414( 1,60919 \cdot 10^{-8} cm) = 6,66548 \cdot 10^{-9} cm##.

Answer:
\begin{cases}
R \approx 161pm\\
r \approx 66,7pm
\end{cases}

This is not what the book says. What am I doing wrong?
 
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Somehow I am not convinced there is enough data for the radii determination. Sum of radii, yes, individual ones - no.
 
Borek said:
Somehow I am not convinced there is enough data for the radii determination. Sum of radii, yes, individual ones - no.

What makes you say this? Since I know that r = 0.414R, and looking at the picture the edge of the unit cube is clearly e = 2R + 2r, methinks I should be able to extract both R and r from the information given. I was able to calculate e (although my calculation could be wrong, and according to the book it is).
 
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You can calculate edge of the cube, no doubt about it, but I am not convinced the idea of Mg2+ being hidden in the holes between O2- is right.

Sure, it can work this way for some compounds, but without further information there is no way of telling which compounds look this way (what if the radii of the anion and cation are comparable?)

Not your fault, I just don't like the question in general. It requires you to make an assumption (r=R(\sqrt 2 - 1)) which I don't see as necessarily justified.

Sanity check:

TheSodesa said:
We know ##\rho## = 3,58g/cm3.

If we then take ##1cm^3## block of MgO, its mass ##m = 0,7931 \rho V = 0,7931(3,58g/cm^3)(1cm^3) = 2,8393g##.

Mass of the 1 cm3 of the solid can't be 3.58 g and 2.84 g at the same time, only one of these numbers is correct.
 
Borek said:
You can calculate edge of the cube, no doubt about it, but I am not convinced the idea of Mg2+ being hidden in the holes between O2- is right.

Sure, it can work this way for some compounds, but without further information there is no way of telling which compounds look this way (what if the radii of the anion and cation are comparable?)

Not your fault, I just don't like the question in general. It requires you to make an assumption (r=R(\sqrt 2 - 1)) which I don't see as necessarily justified.

Sanity check:Mass of the 1 cm3 of the solid can't be 3.58 g and 2.84 g at the same time, only one of these numbers is correct.

You're right. How didn't I realize I had two different masses for the same volume?

Alright, so if instead we use m = 3,58g to calculate ##n=m/M = (3,58g)/(40,3044g/mol) = 0,088824mol##.

Then ##N=nN_A = (0,088824mol)(6,022 \cdot 10^{23} 1/mol) = 5,34898 \cdot 10^{22}##

Then the amount of unit cells is ##N/4 = 1,33725 \cdot 10^{22}## and ##e = \sqrt[3]{\frac{1cm^3}{N/4}} = 4,21305 \cdot 10^{-8}cm##.

Then ##R = \frac{e}{2\sqrt{2}} = 1,48954 \cdot 10^{-8}cm## and ##r = 0,414R = 6,16986 \cdot 10^{-9}cm##.

Then \begin{cases}
R \approx 149pm\\
r \approx 62pm
\end{cases}

Booyah!

I think I might have been too stuck on a certain example in the book (Zumdahl), where they estimate how much actual space is taken up by the atoms in a unit cell.

Thank you for the sanity check. I will mark this as solved.

EDIT: Zumdahl's book is very clear in saying that the ##r = (\sqrt{2}-1)R## is an approximation arrived at by assuming that all of the atoms in the ionic lattice are closest-packed hard spheres touching each other. That is how the relation was derived from simple geometry.
 
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