How do you prove ##\lambda = \frac {2L} {n} ## given only L?

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The discussion centers on proving the equation ##\lambda = \frac{2L}{n}## using the distance L and the quantum number n. Participants clarify that solving the Schrödinger equation for a particle in a box is essential for this proof. The conversation highlights that the quantum number n is inherently part of the kinetic energy equation, thus not needing to be explicitly known. Ultimately, the user successfully resolves their confusion regarding the relationship between de Broglie's equation and the Schrödinger equation for an infinite barrier quantum well.

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Homework Statement
A free proton moves back and forth between rigid walls separated by a distance L.

If the proton is represented by a one-dimensional standing de Broglie wave with a node at each wall, show that the allowed values of the de Broglie wavelength are given by the given equation where n is a positive integer.
Relevant Equations
##\lambda = \frac {2L} {n} ##
##\lambda = \sqrt { \frac {(hc)^2} {2mc^2k} } ##, where k is the kinetic energy
## (hc)^2 = 1240 (ev *nm)^2 ##
Since I know from the equation the type of particle and the distance L, I thought of equating the first relevant equation to the second equation. Since n = 1, 2, 3 ..., I thought by equating the two equations I could get k = 1, 4, 9... and have the two constants equal each other. The two constants did not equal each other, so I am a bit stuck on where to go from here or where to start. I got an equation for kinetic energy in terms of n from my previous attempt, but I don't know the quantum number, n, nor the kinetic energy, k. Thank you for any help that can provided.
 
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Danielk010 said:
I got an equation for kinetic energy in terms of n from my previous attempt, but I don't know the quantum number, n, nor the kinetic energy, k.
What previous attempt? Did you solve the Schrödinger equation for a particle in a box? You don't need to know ##n## because it is part of ##K##. This is a "show that" kind of problem. You don't have to find any numbers.
 
kuruman said:
What previous attempt? Did you solve the Schrödinger equation for a particle in a box? You don't need to know ##n## because it is part of ##K##. This is a "show that" kind of problem. You don't have to find any numbers.
My previous attempt was trying to equate de Broglie's equation from the equation given in the question. I did not solve Schrödinger equation for a particle in a box. My class went over Schrödinger's equation involving a infinite barrier quantum well, I am not sure if that is what you are referring to. Looking back on my notes, I think I figured it out. Thank you for the help.
 
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Danielk010 said:
My previous attempt was trying to equate de Broglie's equation from the equation given in the question. I did not solve Schrödinger equation for a particle in a box. My class went over Schrödinger's equation involving a infinite barrier quantum well, I am not sure if that is what you are referring to. Looking back on my notes, I think I figured it out. Thank you for the help.
Yes, I was referring to an infinite barrier well a.k.a. particle in a box. I'm glad you figured it out by yourself.
 
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