How Do You Resolve a Division by Zero in Limit Calculations?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit \(\lim_{t\to0}\left(\frac{1}{t}-\frac{1}{t^2+t}\right)\), focusing on the challenges posed by division by zero in limit calculations. Participants explore various algebraic manipulations and the potential application of L'Hospital's Rule.

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  • Participants discuss finding a common denominator and simplifying the expression to avoid division by zero. Some express uncertainty about the correctness of their methods, while others suggest using L'Hospital's Rule as an alternative approach.

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The conversation includes multiple interpretations of the problem, with some participants confirming the validity of algebraic simplifications while others highlight the limitations of L'Hospital's Rule for those who have not learned it yet. There is no explicit consensus, but productive guidance is being shared.

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Some participants note the constraints of not having covered L'Hospital's Rule in their coursework, which influences their approach to the problem. Additionally, there are reminders about the implications of division by zero in limit evaluations.

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Homework Statement


[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{1}{t}-\frac{1}{t^2+t}[/tex]

Homework Equations


Limit Laws, et al.

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{1}{t}-\frac{1}{t^2+t}[/tex]

I didn't feel this would work, too much division by zero, so I found a common den.

[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{t^2+t}{t(t^2+t)}-\frac{t}{t(t^2+t)}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{t^2+t-t}{t(t^2+t)}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{t^2}{t^3+t^2)}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{t^2}{t^2(t+1)}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{1}{t+1} = \frac{1}{1}[/tex]

Edit:
I figured it out now, does it appear correct?
 
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You *can* use http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LHospitalsRule.html"

=lim(t->0) t2/t3+t2

=lim(t->0) 2t/3t2+2t

=lim(t->0) 2/3t+2

=2/2

=1 (since 3t -> 0)
 
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Well, I arrived at 1 without the rule? We have not covered L'Hospital so I know I should be able to complete it without. Have I made a mistake?
 
JNBirDy said:
You need to use http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LHospitalsRule.html"

=lim(t->0) t2/t3+t2

=lim(t->0) 2t/3t2+2t

=lim(t->0) 2/3t+2

=2/2

=1 (since 3t -> 0)

You don't NEED to use l'Hopital. Reducing the problem using algebra to the determinate form 1/(t+1) does the job as well.
 
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QuarkCharmer said:
Well, I arrived at 1 without the rule? We have not covered L'Hospital so I know I should be able to complete it without. Have I made a mistake?

The way you did it seems to work as well. L'Hospital's Rule is still nifty to know since it will let you check your work.

Dick said:
You don't NEED to use l'Hopital. Reducing the problem using algebra to the determinate form 1/(t+1) does the job as well.

Yeah I was thinking of editing out the word 'need' after I replied but was too lazy. :)
 
Thanks guys.
 
1/t - 1/t^2+t
add and substract t in d numerator of -1/t^2+t
 
QuarkCharmer said:

Homework Statement


[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{1}{t}-\frac{1}{t^2+t}[/tex]


Homework Equations


Limit Laws, et al.


The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{1}{t}-\frac{1}{t^2+t}[/tex]

I didn't feel this would work, too much division by zero, so I found a common den.

[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{t^2+t}{t(t^2+t)}-\frac{t}{t(t^2+t)}[/tex]
Better is the least common denominator- t^2+ 1= t(t+ 1) so t(t+ 1) is itself a common denominator.

(t+1)/(t(t+1))- \frac{1}{t(t+1)}= t/(t(t+1))= 1/(t+ 1).

Now take the limit.

[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{t^2+t-t}{t(t^2+t)}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{t^2}{t^3+t^2)}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{t^2}{t^2(t+1)}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{t\to0}\frac{1}{t+1} = \frac{1}{1}[/tex]

Edit:
I figured it out now, does it appear correct?
 
JNBirDy said:
The way you did it seems to work as well. L'Hospital's Rule is still nifty to know since it will let you check your work.
But since QuarkCharmer hasn't learned this rule yet, it's not an option in this problem. Also, there are limits for which L'Hopital's Rule can be used, but it doesn't lead to finding the limit. For problems such as these, being able to simplify using algebra is the way to go.
JNBirDy said:
Yeah I was thinking of editing out the word 'need' after I replied but was too lazy. :)
 
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Why not just write:
[tex] \frac{1}{t}-\frac{1}{t^{2}+t}=\frac{1}{t}\left( 1-\frac{1}{t+1}\right) =\frac{1}{t}\cdot\frac{t}{t+1}=\frac{1}{t+1}[/tex]
 
  • #11
By the way

1) You don't divide by 0. The fact that attempting to set t= 0 in this fraction gives a 0 in the denominator means you can't find the limit that way.

2) While it isn't necessary to say it every time, you should keep in mind that
[tex]\frac{t}{t(t+1)}= \frac{1}{t+1}[/tex]
is only true for [itex]t\ne 1[/itex]. Fortunately, if f(x)= g(x) for all x except a, lim_{x->a} f(x)= lim_{x\to a} g(x) so we don't need to worry about that.
 

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