MHB How Do You Set Up Double Integrals for Different Orders of Integration?

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The discussion focuses on setting up double integrals for a specific region bounded by y = 0, y = sqrt{x}, and x = 4. Two orders of integration are proposed: using vertical strips, the integral is set up as I = ∫ from 0 to 4 of (∫ from 0 to sqrt{x} of (y/(1 + x^2) dy) dx. For horizontal strips, the integral is set up as I = ∫ from 0 to 2 of (y ∫ from y^2 to 4 of (1/(x^2 + 1) dx) dy. Both setups lead to the same result when evaluated, demonstrating the equivalence of the two integration orders. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the region of integration and the setup process without performing the actual evaluation.
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Set up an integral for both orders of integration.
DO NOT EVALUATE THE INTEGRAL.

Let S S = double integrals

Let R = region

S S y/(1 + x^2) dA

R: region bounded by y = 0, y = sqrt{x}, x = 4

I can graph the region but have no idea how to proceed from there. I need solution steps.
 
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Harpazo said:
Set up an integral for both orders of integration.
DO NOT EVALUATE THE INTEGRAL.

Let S S = double integrals

Let R = region

S S y/(1 + x^2) dA

R: region bounded by y = 0, y = sqrt{x}, x = 4

I can graph the region but have no idea how to proceed from there. I need solution steps.

First we should note that the functions intersect at (0, 0), so if we use vertical strips we see that they will go from x = 0 to x = 4. The bottom of each strip is bounded by the x-axis (y = 0) and the top of each strip is bounded by the function $\displaystyle \begin{align*} y = \sqrt{x} \end{align*}$. So that means our region of integration is

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} 0 \leq y \leq \sqrt{x} \end{align*}$ with $\displaystyle \begin{align*} 0 \leq x \leq 4 \end{align*}$
 
Harpazo said:
Set up an integral for both orders of integration.
DO NOT EVALUATE THE INTEGRAL.

Let S S = double integrals

Let R = region

S S y/(1 + x^2) dA

R: region bounded by y = 0, y = sqrt{x}, x = 4

I can graph the region but have no idea how to proceed from there. I need solution steps.
Have you considered that if you post these one at a time you might be able to solve some on your own? You have posted five threads with pretty much the exact same question.

-Dan
 
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Harpazo said:
Set up an integral for both orders of integration.
DO NOT EVALUATE THE INTEGRAL.

Let S S = double integrals

Let R = region

S S y/(1 + x^2) dA

R: region bounded by y = 0, y = sqrt{x}, x = 4

I can graph the region but have no idea how to proceed from there. I need solution steps.

Let's first look at the region $D$ over which we are directed to integrate:

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Now if we use horizontal strips, then we see they are bound on the left by $x=y^2$ and on the right by $x=4$. We also see that these horizontal strips run from $y=0 $to $y=2$. And so we may write the integral as:

$$I=\int_0^2 y\int_{y^2}^4 \frac{1}{x^2+1}\,dx\,dy$$

Evaluating (I know you asked not to evaluate, but I figure enough time has gone by, and I wish to check to be sure we get the same result regardless of integration order), we obtain:

$$I=\int_0^2 y\arctan(4)-y\arctan\left(y^2\right)\,dy=\frac{1}{4}\ln(17)$$

Now, if we set this up with vertical strips, we see that they are bound on the bottom by $y=0$ and on the top by $y=\sqrt{x}$, and that these strips run from $x=0$ to $x=4$. And so we may write the integral as:

$$I=\int_0^4 \frac{1}{x^2+1}\int_0^{\sqrt{x}} y\,dy\,dx$$

Evaluating, we obtain:

$$I=\frac{1}{4}\int_0^4\frac{2x}{x^2+1}\,dx=\frac{1}{4}\ln(17)$$

I found this method simpler to integrate. :D
 

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MarkFL said:
Let's first look at the region $D$ over which we are directed to integrate:
Now if we use horizontal strips, then we see they are bound on the left by $x=y^2$ and on the right by $x=4$. We also see that these horizontal strips run from $y=0 $to $y=2$. And so we may write the integral as:

$$I=\int_0^2 y\int_{y^2}^4 \frac{1}{x^2+1}\,dx\,dy$$

Evaluating (I know you asked not to evaluate, but I figure enough time has gone by, and I wish to check to be sure we get the same result regardless of integration order), we obtain:

$$I=\int_0^2 y\arctan(4)-y\arctan\left(y^2\right)\,dy=\frac{1}{4}\ln(17)$$

Now, if we set this up with vertical strips, we see that they are bound on the bottom by $y=0$ and on the top by $y=\sqrt{x}$, and that these strips run from $x=0$ to $x=4$. And so we may write the integral as:

$$I=\int_0^4 \frac{1}{x^2+1}\int_0^{\sqrt{x}} y\,dy\,dx$$

Evaluating, we obtain:

$$I=\frac{1}{4}\int_0^4\frac{2x}{x^2+1}\,dx=\frac{1}{4}\ln(17)$$

I found this method simpler to integrate. :D

Wonderfully done!
 

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