How Do You Solve a Binomial Expansion Problem with Given Series Terms?

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The discussion revolves around the expansion of the binomial expression (1+ax)n and the determination of the values of a and n based on the coefficients of the first three terms of the expansion, specifically 1, -8x, and 30x2.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of simultaneous equations based on the coefficients of the expansion. The original poster identifies the first equation as a*n = -8 and seeks clarification on constructing the second equation related to the coefficient of the x2 term.
  • There is a mention of using trial and error versus simultaneous equations to find the values of a and n, with some participants suggesting that trial and error may be more efficient.
  • Questions arise regarding the correct interpretation of binomial coefficients, specifically nC3, and how they relate to the problem at hand.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the equations needed to solve the problem. Some guidance has been offered on the correct formulation of the second equation, and there is an exploration of integer solutions for a and n. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered, particularly regarding the coefficients and their implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that both a and n must be integers, which constrains the possible solutions. There is also a reference to the coefficients provided in a textbook, which may influence the direction of the discussion.

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Hi,

When (1+ax)n is expanded as a series in expanding powers of x, the first three terms are 1 - 8x + 30x2

Calculate the values of a and n.

So, I think we need simultaneous equations and I managed to build the first one:

a*n = 8

My problem is however, that to construct the second equation I need to transform nCr into something I can work with. I know it is something around

n(n-1)(n-2) / 2!​

But I am not sure and I don't know how to work with these. Could anyone please help me?

Thanks!
Peter G.
 
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Peter G. said:
Hi,

When (1+ax)n is expanded as a series in expanding powers of x, the first three terms are 1 - 8x + 30x2

Calculate the values of a and n.

So, I think we need simultaneous equations and I managed to build the first one:

a*n = 8

My problem is however, that to construct the second equation I need to transform nCr into something I can work with. I know it is something around

n(n-1)(n-2) / 2!​

But I am not sure and I don't know how to work with these. Could anyone please help me?

Thanks!
Peter G.

The coefficient of the x2 term will be n(n-1)(n-2) / 2! times a2, and you know that this coefficient has to be 30.

Your first equation is really a*n = - 8. Since both a and n have to be integers, there aren't a lot of choices for either one. You don't need to try n = 1, 3, 5, 6, or 7.
 
So when I have the two equations I don't need to do simultaneous? Only trial and error?
 
You could do the problem either way, but I think that educated trial and error would be much quicker.
 
Ok, I think the trial and error is better in this case because the simultaneous is quite complicated...
 
Mark44 said:
The coefficient of the x2 term will be n(n-1)(n-2) / 2! times a2, and you know that this coefficient has to be 30.

Your first equation is really a*n = - 8. Since both a and n have to be integers, there aren't a lot of choices for either one. You don't need to try n = 1, 3, 5, 6, or 7.

I didn't check your work, and now I see an error. The first equation is an = -8, but the second one should be n(n - 1)/2 * a2 = 30, not n(n-1)(n-2) / 2! * a2.
 
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Oh, ok, so when it is n N 3 for example, it should be n(n-1)(n-2)?
 
Do you mean nC3? That would be n!/[3! (n - 3)!] = [n(n - 1)(n - 2)]/3!
 
Yeah, sorry, that was what I meant. Thanks!
 
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This seems to be harder than it should be - are you sure you have the right coefficients?
 
  • #11
Yes, the answers the book has are: n = 16 and a = -0.5
 
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Yeah, those work.

It still comes down to solving the system
an = -8
n(n - 1)a2 = 60

The second equation comes from n(n - 1)/2 * a2 = 30

From the first equation, a = -8/n.

Substitute this into the second equation to get
n(n - 1) 64/n2 = 60

or
64 (n2 - n)/n2 = 60

This is the same as 64 (1 - 1/n) = 60, or
(n - 1)/n = 15/16, whose solution is n = 16.
 

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