How Do You Solve a Projectile Motion Problem with Calculus?

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a ball tossed from a tower, described by the quadratic function y = -16t² + 64t + 80. Participants are exploring concepts related to velocity, initial conditions, and maximum height using calculus and kinematic equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss calculating the velocity at specific times using derivatives and question how to determine initial velocity. There is confusion regarding the units of acceleration and the application of calculus versus traditional kinematic equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted calculations and shared their results, while others are questioning the validity of those results and the methods used. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the problem's equation and the relevant equations provided.

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There is a mention of differing units for acceleration, with one participant noting that the equation does not use metric units. Additionally, some participants express uncertainty about the definitions of terms in the equations and how they relate to the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement



A ball is tossed up in the air from the top of a tower. The function for this is
y = -16t2 + 64t + 80. The problems are:

a) What is the velocity of the ball after 4 seconds?
b) What was the initial velocity that the ball was tossed?
c) When will the ball reach its maximum height?

Homework Equations



v=v0 + at, s = v0t + at2/2
And the derivative equation CNXN-1, dx/dy

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, I calculated the velocity at 1 second (a different part of the problem) and got 32 m/s. 32 is also the acceleration I got from the 2nd derivative, which doesn't make sense since shouldn't it be -9.81?

I know you use the 1st deriv to find instant velocity, but how do you figure out the initial velocity? do you just use those old formulas that I listed, or do you apply calculus to this? I know how to find instant velocity using derivative, but don't know how to do velocity after a period of time (4 seconds). An part c) I have no idea.
 
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dominus96 said:

Homework Statement



A ball is tossed up in the air from the top of a tower. The function for this is
y = -16t2 + 64t + 80. The problems are:

a) What is the velocity of the ball after 4 seconds?
b) What was the initial velocity that the ball was tossed?
c) When will the ball reach its maximum height?

Homework Equations



v=v0 + at, s = v0t + at2/2
And the derivative equation CNXN-1, dx/dy

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, I calculated the velocity at 1 second (a different part of the problem) and got 32 m/s. 32 is also the acceleration I got from the 2nd derivative, which doesn't make sense since shouldn't it be -9.81?

That equation is not in metric units; the acceleration due to gravity is (about) 32 ft/s^2 downwards.

I know you use the 1st deriv to find instant velocity, but how do you figure out the initial velocity?

In the first equation (the one in the problem itself), what are the different terms of the equation? What is the general equation that that one comes from?

do you just use those old formulas that I listed, or do you apply calculus to this? I know how to find instant velocity using derivative, but don't know how to do velocity after a period of time (4 seconds). An part c) I have no idea.

You can find the answer using just these equations and the ideas of free fall.
 
Alright I got 96 as the initial velocity, and 0 as the velocity after 4 seconds. Are those right?
 
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dominus96 said:
Alright I got 96 as the initial velocity, and 0 as the velocity after 4 seconds. Are those right?

No, I don't believe those answers are correct. What did you do to find them? Remember to compare the equation in the problem with the corresponding one in your "relevant equations" section. What do s, v_o, and a mean?
 

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