How Do You Solve a Truss Equilibrium Problem with Incorrect Force Calculations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a truss equilibrium problem involving three applied forces. Participants are examining the equations of equilibrium and the calculations made to determine the magnitudes of forces C and T, while addressing potential errors in the initial calculations.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster presents their calculations for forces C and T based on equilibrium equations but arrives at different values than expected.
  • One participant questions the formulation of the Fx equation used by the original poster.
  • Another participant suggests a sign convention and provides alternative equilibrium equations for vertical and horizontal forces.
  • A different participant points out a potential oversight regarding the inclusion of the 12 kN force in the Fx equation but does not verify the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correctness of the original calculations and the formulation of the equilibrium equations. There is no consensus on the correct approach or resolution of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions regarding force directions and the application of sign conventions, as well as unresolved mathematical steps in the calculations presented.

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Question:

Three forces of magnitude 45 kN, 24 kN and 12 kN are applied to the truss connection as shown. Knowing that the connection is in equilibrium, determine the magnitude of the forces C and T.

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Equations:

Fx = 0
Fy = 0

My attempt:

Fx=0:

-24kN + Tcos40 + Csin20 = 0

Fy = 0:

45kN + Tsin40 - Ccos20 = 0

By substitution:

Divide first equation by sin20:

2.24T + C = 70.17 kN ---> C = 70.17kN - 2.24T (Plug that C into equation 2.)

Tsin40 - (70.17kN - 2.24T)(cos20) = -45kN

2.75T = 20.94

T = 7.62kN (Plug that back into equation 1 to find C)

C = 53.10 kN

However the answer is supposed to be C = 44.89kN and T = 4.35kN

What am I doing wrong?
 
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How do you get your Fx equation?
 
For a start sign convention:
∧ +ve & >+ve

v=0
-24 + CCos70 = TCos40 +12​
h=0
-CSin70 = TSin40 +45

from here you should be able to get answer​
 
I think you missed the 12 kN in your Fx equation. I didn't go through the math though.
 

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