Statics - Support Reaction in Truss

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The discussion revolves around finding support reactions in a truss system, specifically focusing on the equilibrium conditions and the implications of treating the structure as a single rigid body versus a system of interconnected rigid bodies.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the equations derived from equilibrium conditions and question the independence of these equations. There is a discussion about the nature of the truss structure and whether it can be treated as a single rigid body.

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Some participants have offered insights into the implications of treating the truss as a single structure, leading to a realization that additional independent equations may be necessary. The conversation has progressed towards understanding the flexibility of joints within the truss system.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the effects of changing support types and the resulting structural behavior, indicating that assumptions about rigidity may need to be revisited. There is an acknowledgment of the need for a fourth independent equation to solve the system.

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I'm having a hard time finding the support reactions R_{fx} ; R_{fy} ; R_{kx} ; R_{ky} in this truss.

2. The attempt at a solution

I got four equations using the equilibrium conditions (sum of forces along x and y ; sum of moments on F and on C) but the system doesn't seem to have a solution. Am i missing something?

<br /> (\Sigma x = 0) R_{fx} + R_{ky} = 0 \\<br /> (\Sigma y = 0) R_{fy} + R_{ky} = 530 \\<br /> (\Sigma M_{f} = 0) -8R_{kx} + 40R_{ky} = 11100 \\<br /> (\Sigma M_{c} = 0) -20R_{fx} + 20R_{fy} -12 R_{kx} - 20R_{ky} = -500<br />

Thanks!
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You have treated the whole girder system as a single rigid structure. That means there are only three independent equations available. Any further you write down, whether linear forces or moments, can be deduced from those three.

Is it a single rigid structure?
 
Yes exactly, I noticed that I can obtain the fourth equation from the first three so I need a fourth independent one.
But I'm under the impression that it is a single structure, I guess I'm wrong!
 
Philippe said:
Yes exactly, I noticed that I can obtain the fourth equation from the first three so I need a fourth independent one.
But I'm under the impression that it is a single structure, I guess I'm wrong!
Imagine replacing one of the end supports with a roller. Can you visualise what would happen in reality?
 
The horizontal component of the reaction force would be zero as it free to move in this direction on the end support, right?
 
Philippe said:
The horizontal component of the reaction force would be zero as it free to move in this direction on the end support, right?
Yes, but what would happen to the structure? Would it stay up?
 
No, it would collapse.
 
Philippe said:
No, it would collapse.
How, exactly?
 
The whole structure would "flatten" and be pushed to the right?
 
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Philippe said:
The whole structure would "flatten" and be pushed to the right?
To change shape, some joint must flex. Which one?
 
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Joint e ?
 
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Philippe said:
Joint e ?
Right. So the truss system is not in itself a rigid body. Rather, it is two rigid bodies hinged at e. This allows you to write a torque balance equation which is independent of the equations you already have.
Can you see how to do that?
 
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Yes it worked!
Thanks a million!
 

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