How Do You Solve an Equilibrium Problem with Initial Reactants and No Products?

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The discussion revolves around solving a basic equilibrium problem in chemistry, specifically focusing on a reaction with initial reactants and no products. Participants explore how to determine equilibrium concentrations and the equilibrium constant when starting with zero product concentration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about calculating the equilibrium constant when initial product concentrations are zero, using the reaction 2HI(g) ↔ H2(g) + I2(g) as an example.
  • Another participant questions the implications of knowing the reaction must reach equilibrium despite not currently being at equilibrium.
  • A repeated inquiry emphasizes the need to write the equilibrium expression in full detail, highlighting the importance of using equilibrium values.
  • A proposed approach suggests breaking the problem into parts, defining initial concentrations, and letting the change in concentration at equilibrium be represented by a variable (x).
  • The method involves expressing the equilibrium concentrations in terms of x and setting up an equation to solve for x based on the equilibrium constant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the best method to solve the problem, as different approaches and levels of understanding are presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective way to calculate the equilibrium concentrations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants may have missing assumptions about the relationship between initial and equilibrium concentrations, and there is an emphasis on the need for clarity in defining variables and expressions used in the calculations.

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1. I am having trouble figuring out how to work the most basic equilibrium problem when there is an initial concentration of reactants only and no product. How am I supposed to find the constant with a zero in my quotient? Here is an example problem:
At 527˚C, K = 0.0160 for the following reaction: 2HI(g) ↔ H2 (g) + I2 (g)
What is the equilibrium concentration of H2
if the initial concentrations of both H2 and I2
= 0.0160 M and the initial concentration of
HI = 0 M?


2. k = product/reactant

3. If I knew where to start I wouldn't need help
 
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Bad-Wolf said:
1. I am having trouble figuring out how to work the most basic equilibrium problem when there is an initial concentration of reactants only and no product. How am I supposed to find the constant with a zero in my quotient? Here is an example problem:
At 527˚C, K = 0.0160 for the following reaction: 2HI(g) ↔ H2 (g) + I2 (g)
What is the equilibrium concentration of H2
if the initial concentrations of both H2 and I2
= 0.0160 M and the initial concentration of
HI = 0 M?


2. k = product/reactant

3. If I knew where to start I wouldn't need help

You mentioned that K=[product]/[reactants] - write this equation out in full detail and remember that they refer to the equilibrium values.
 
one way of solving this problem is by breaking it into parts.

initially,

= [I2] = 0.0160 mol/dm3
[HI] = 0 mol/dm3

at equilibrium, let [HI] be x mol/dm3
then, accordingly,

= [I2] = {0.0160 - (x/2)} mol/dm3, because 2 mol HI are produced by using 1 mol H2 and 1 mol I2.

find the equilibrium constant in term of x.
and then solve for x by equation the above expression to 0.0160

 

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