How Do You Solve an Oscillating Body's Differential Equation?

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The problem involves solving a second-order ordinary differential equation related to the deflection of an oscillating body. The equation is given as d^2/dt^2 + 16y = 3sin(2t), with specific initial conditions provided.

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  • Participants discuss the characteristic equation derived from the homogeneous part of the differential equation and explore the roots, questioning the correct approach to finding the general solution. There are attempts to identify particular solutions and confusion regarding the application of exponential functions and trigonometric identities.

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Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, with some participants providing guidance on the structure of the solution while others express uncertainty about their understanding of the concepts involved. There is no explicit consensus on the next steps, but productive dialogue is ongoing.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the signs in the characteristic equation and the nature of the solutions, indicating a need for clarification on the mathematical principles at play. The initial conditions and the specific form of the non-homogeneous term are also under discussion.

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Homework Statement



the deflection y of a body oscillating about a fixed reference point satisfies the ordinary differential equation

[math] d^2/dt^2 + 16y = 3sin(2t) [/math]

Where t is time

given the initial conditions y = 0 and dy/dt = 3/2 at time t= 0 , solve the differential equation to obtain an expression for the deflection y as a function of t.


Homework Equations



[math] d^2/dt^2 + 16y = 3sin(2t) [/math]

The Attempt at a Solution



I understand that i must let

[math] y = e^alphax [/math]

Therefor alpha^2 + 16 = 3sin(2t)

however i then know that the general solution is (x + 4)(x - 4)

however isn't this for a -16 not a positive 16?

but then i goto x^2 + 4x - 4x -16

Again -16?

but right there I am stuck

ive never solved one of these and I am at my limit with this one it really is beyond me.

Any help would be appreciated so much

Thanks
 
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so your equation is r2+16=0 to give you the homogeneous roots

use the quadratic equation formula and the fact that i=√-1 (imaginary unit) to get your roots in the form of λ±μi.

so yh=eλt(cos(μt)+sin(μt))

Now find yp, then add that to yh and you can go on.
 
Let's look at the related, homogeneous diff. eqn: y'' + 16y = 0.
The characteristic equation is r2 + 16 = 0, which has roots +/- 4i. This means that two solutions to the homogeneous diff. eqn. are e^4t and e-4t). The solutions to the homogeneous problem consist of all linear combinations of these two functions; i.e., the sum of constant multiples of these two functions.

For the nonhomogeneous diff. eqn. y'' + 16y = 3cos(2t), a good choice for a particular solution is yp = Acos(2t). Substitute this function into your differential equation to solve for the constant A.

The general solution consists of the solutions to the homogeneous problem plus the particular solution.
 
mxmadman_44 said:

Homework Statement



the deflection y of a body oscillating about a fixed reference point satisfies the ordinary differential equation

[math] d^2/dt^2 + 16y = 3sin(2t) [/math]

Where t is time

given the initial conditions y = 0 and dy/dt = 3/2 at time t= 0 , solve the differential equation to obtain an expression for the deflection y as a function of t.


Homework Equations



[math] d^2/dt^2 + 16y = 3sin(2t) [/math]

The Attempt at a Solution



I understand that i must let

[math] y = e^alphax [/math]

Therefor alpha^2 + 16 = 3sin(2t)
No, you mustn't. You must look at the associated homogeneous equation,
[tex]\frac{d^1y}{dt^2}+ 16= 0[/tex] which gives characteristic equation [itex]\alpha^2+ 16= 0[/itex]

however i then know that the general solution is (x + 4)(x - 4)
No, you don't know that. In the first place, that is not a "solution" it is an attempt to factor. In the second place, its product is NOT "[itex]x^2+ 16[/itex]", it is "[itex]x^2- 16[/itex]" so your factoring is wrong. In the third place, it should be "[itex]\alpha[/itex]", not x. If you write the equation as [itex]\alpha^2= -16[/itex] it should be easy to solve.

You will also want to use the fact that [itex]e^{i\alpha x}= cos(\alpha x)+ i sin(\alpha x)[/itex]

however isn't this for a -16 not a positive 16?

but then i goto x^2 + 4x - 4x -16

Again -16?

but right there I am stuck

ive never solved one of these and I am at my limit with this one it really is beyond me.

Any help would be appreciated so much

Thanks

And, on this forum, use [ tex] or [ itex ] for LaTex.
 

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