Solving an Euler differential equation

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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation \((2x+1)^2y'' + (4x+2)y' - 4y = x^2\), with participants exploring various approaches to find a solution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss a substitution \(t = \ln|2x+1|\) and the subsequent transformations of derivatives. There is an exploration of the homogeneous and particular solutions, with some questioning the correctness of the derived expressions for \(c_1'(t)\) and \(c_2'(t)\).

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants expressing doubts about the correctness of certain steps in the solution process. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in the formulation of the differential equation, and participants are encouraged to verify their work.

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Participants are operating under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the extent of guidance provided. There is a focus on ensuring the accuracy of the differential equation as stated, with some participants questioning the original problem setup.

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Homework Statement



Solve the differential equation ##(2x+1)^2y'' + (4x+2)y' - 4y = x^2##
Can someone verify whether my solution is correct?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



We perform the substitution ##t = \ln|2x+1|##. Then, ##e^t = |2x+1|## and ##x = \pm(e^t -1)/2##

Without loss of generality, let's solve the equation for ##x = (e^t-1)/2##. (the other case is analogue)

We find ##\frac{dy}{dx} = 2e^{-t}\frac{dy}{dt}##

##\frac{d^2y}{dx^2} = -4e^{-2t}\frac{dy}{dt}+4e^{-2t}\frac{d^2y}{dt^2}##

Hence, the differential equation becomes:

##16y'' - 16y = (e^t-1)^2##

This is a linear differential equation with constant coefficients:

The homogeneous is given by:

##y_h = c_1e^t + c_2e^{-t}##

Let's apply variation of the constants to find ##y_p##, the particular solution.

##y_p = c_1(t)e^t + c_2(t)e^{-t}##

Then, we can find the functions ##c_1'## and ##c_2'## as solutions of the system:

##\begin{cases}c_1'(t)e^t + c_2'(t)e^{-t} = 0\\c_1'(t)e^t - c_2'(t)e^{-t} = (e^t-1)^2\end{cases}##

##\iff c_1'(t) = -c_2'(t) = \frac{(e^t-1)^2}{2e^t}##

Hence:

##c_1(t) = e^t/2 - t - e^{-t}/2 = -c_2(t)## (if we set the constant of integration to ##0##)

Hence, the solution is given by:

##y = y_p + y_h = c_1e^t + c_2e^{-t} -1 + 1/2e^{2t}-te^t + 1/2e^{-2t}+te^{-t}##

And by substituting back:

##y(x) = c_1(2x+1) + c_2\frac{1}{2x+1} + \frac{(2x+1)^2}{2} - \ln(2x+1)(2x+1) - 1 + \frac{1}{2(2x+1)^2} + \frac{\ln(2x+1)}{2x+1}##
 
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Math_QED said:

Homework Statement



Solve the differential equation ##(2x+1)^2y'' + (4x+2)y' - 4y = x^2##
Can someone verify whether my solution is correct?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



We perform the substitution ##t = \ln|2x+1|##. Then, ##e^t = |2x+1|## and ##x = \pm(e^t -1)/2##

Without loss of generality, let's solve the equation for ##x = (e^t-1)/2##. (the other case is analogue)

We find ##\frac{dy}{dx} = 2e^{-t}\frac{dy}{dt}##

##\frac{d^2y}{dx^2} = -4e^{-2t}\frac{dy}{dt}+4e^{-2t}\frac{d^2y}{dt^2}##

Hence, the differential equation becomes:

##16y'' - 16y = (e^t-1)^2##

This is a linear differential equation with constant coefficients:

The homogeneous is given by:

##y_h = c_1e^t + c_2e^{-t}##

Let's apply variation of the constants to find ##y_p##, the particular solution.

##y_p = c_1(t)e^t + c_2(t)e^{-t}##

Then, we can find the functions ##c_1'## and ##c_2'## as solutions of the system:

##\begin{cases}c_1'(t)e^t + c_2'(t)e^{-t} = 0\\c_1'(t)e^t - c_2'(t)e^{-t} = (e^t-1)^2\end{cases}##

##\iff c_1'(t) = -c_2'(t) = \frac{(e^t-1)^2}{2e^t}##

Hence:

##c_1(t) = e^t/2 - t - e^{-t}/2 = -c_2(t)## (if we set the constant of integration to ##0##)

Hence, the solution is given by:

##y = y_p + y_h = c_1e^t + c_2e^{-t} -1 + 1/2e^{2t}-te^t + 1/2e^{-2t}+te^{-t}##

And by substituting back:

##y(x) = c_1(2x+1) + c_2\frac{1}{2x+1} + \frac{(2x+1)^2}{2} - \ln(2x+1)(2x+1) - 1 + \frac{1}{2(2x+1)^2} + \frac{\ln(2x+1)}{2x+1}##
What is preventing you from putting your formula for ##y(x)## into the DE to test if it works?
 
Math_QED said:
##\begin{cases}c_1'(t)e^t + c_2'(t)e^{-t} = 0\\c_1'(t)e^t - c_2'(t)e^{-t} = (e^t-1)^2\end{cases}##

##\iff c_1'(t) = -c_2'(t) = \frac{(e^t-1)^2}{2e^t}##
This doesn't look right.
 
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vela said:
This doesn't look right.

Thanks for pointing out!
 
What a pity that last LHS term is –4y instead of 4y, in which case the LHS would have been an exact second derivative. Sure you copied it out right.? :oldsmile:
 
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epenguin said:
What a pity that last LHS term is –4y instead of 4y, in which case the LHS would have been an exact second derivative. Sure you copied it out right.? :oldsmile:

I just checked and I made no typo, unfortunately.
 
Pity they didn't ask good question. I can't see any way to hammer that one into something so nice. :biggrin:
 

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