How do you solve degeneracy for 2-D particle in a box?

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The discussion revolves around determining the degeneracy of a specific energy level for a two-dimensional particle in a box, specifically for the energy level E = 65 E0. The participants are exploring the mathematical implications of the energy equation related to the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss finding combinations of integers n1 and n2 that satisfy the equation n1^2 + n2^2 = 130. There is mention of the need to consider positive integers and the implications of the zero point energy.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various approaches to finding solutions to the equation, with some participants suggesting methods like guess and test. There is acknowledgment of multiple solutions leading to a minimum degeneracy count, but no consensus on a complete solution has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that E0 represents the zero point energy, and there is a focus on integer solutions for the variables involved in the energy equation.

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Homework Statement



What is the degeneracy of the energy level E =65 E0 of the two dimensional particle in a box?
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E=(h_^2/8mL^2)*(nx^2+ny^2)--> I think we use this eq.


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As far as I can tell, it's basically a mathematical question - you need to find the number of combinations of integers n1 and n2 such that n12 + n22 = 65 * 2 (I think the 2 should be there since for the ground state energy n1 = n2 = 1).
 
Assuming E0 is the zero point energy, you need to determine how many solutions there are to the equation

E_0 \left(\frac{8mL^2}{h^2}\right) = n_x^2 + n_y^2 = 2(65)

where n_x and n_y are positive integers. For example, one solution would be n_x = 9 and n_y = 7, so obviously n_x = 7 and n_y = 9 is also a solution, so the degeneracy is at LEAST 2. You just need to find all possible solutions, and then count them.

Fortunately the guess and test method works easily for this problem. You could solve it graphically, but the integers are so small I think it's easier to just guess here.
 
Thank you everyone! I figured it out some time ago! I was just not thinking at the time :)
 

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