How Do You Solve These Exponential Equations?

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The discussion revolves around solving exponential equations, specifically focusing on two main problems involving roots and powers. The first question involves simplifying a division of roots expressed in terms of base 2, while the second question deals with a more complex fraction of powers involving bases 3 and 9.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore methods for simplifying expressions involving roots and exponents, questioning how to manipulate these forms. Some participants suggest expressing roots as powers and using properties of exponents to simplify the equations. Others express confusion about combining terms with different exponents and seek clarification on the rules governing such operations.

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Several participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problems, particularly in expressing roots as powers and applying exponent rules. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations and methods, particularly regarding the second question, where participants are checking their calculations and discussing potential errors.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their attempts and the correctness of their solutions, particularly in relation to the answers provided in their textbooks. There are also discussions about the limitations of combining terms with different exponents and the implications of negative bases in exponential equations.

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Homework Statement


Solve the following:
Question 1:

[tex]\sqrt[5]{256}\div\sqrt[6]{64}=2^{x}[/tex]

Question 2:

[tex]\frac{(9^{2x-1})^{3}(3^{3x})^{2}}{(27^{x+2})^{4}}=81^{3}[/tex]

Homework Equations


None that I am aware of.

The Attempt at a Solution


Question 1:

[tex]\sqrt[5]{2^{8}}\div2^{1}=2^{x}[/tex]

Question 2:

[tex]\frac{(3^{4x-2})^{3}(3^{6x})}{(3^{3x+6})^{4}}=3^{12}[/tex]

[tex]3^{12x-6+6x-(12x+24)}=3^{12}[/tex]

[tex]6x=39[/tex]

[tex]x=6.5[/tex]

Sorry that the attempt for question 1 was lacking so much, I was just unsure of what to do with the square roots etc...As for number 2, the answer I got is incorrect, when it says that the answer in the back of my textbook is 7.

Answer Key:
Question 1:
[tex]\frac{3}{5}[/tex]
Question 2:
7

Thanks to everyone who helps.
 
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For #1 you almost have it... just express the fifth root of 2^8 as 2 raised to some power, then use the fact that 2^a / 2^b = 2^(a-b).

For #2 just check your numbers again. -6 -24 = -30. 12 + 30=42.
 
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Two things that is helpful to know:

[tex]\sqrt[a]{n^b} = n^{ \frac{b}{a} }[/tex]

and

[tex]\lg{\frac{a}{b}} = \lg{a} - lg{b}[/tex]


You don't need the logarithm in this case though, since all your numbers are factors of two.

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Ok thanks, I realized what I had done wrong for number two earlier today but I didn't know the rule about number one. I'm just starting into the logarithms so things should start becoming more familiar as well. Thank you.
 
JBD2 said:

Homework Statement


Solve the following:
Question 1:

[tex]\sqrt[5]{256}\div\sqrt[6]{64}=2^{x}[/tex]

Question 2:

[tex]\frac{(9^{2x-1})^{3}(3^{3x})^{2}}{(27^{x+2})^{4}}=81^{3}[/tex]

Homework Equations


None that I am aware of.
Well, how about these:
[tex]^n\sqrt{a}= a^\frac{1}{n}[/tex]
[tex](a^n)^m= a^{mn}[/tex]
[tex]a^m\div a^n= a^{m-n}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Question 1:

[tex]\sqrt[5]{2^{8}}\div2^{1}=2^{x}[/tex]

Question 2:

[tex]\frac{(3^{4x-2})^{3}(3^{6x})}{(3^{3x+6})^{4}}=3^{12}[/tex]

[tex]3^{12x-6+6x-(12x+24)}=3^{12}[/tex]

[tex]6x=39[/tex]

[tex]x=6.5[/tex]

Sorry that the attempt for question 1 was lacking so much, I was just unsure of what to do with the square roots etc...As for number 2, the answer I got is incorrect, when it says that the answer in the back of my textbook is 7.

Answer Key:
Question 1:
[tex]\frac{3}{5}[/tex]
Question 2:
7

Thanks to everyone who helps.
 
Yes sorry I should've added those (the ones I used). I have another question though, I don't know what to do when adding two variables with exponents, for example what would something like this become:

[tex]x^{4}+x^{3}=[/tex]

or

[tex]x^{4}-x^{7}=[/tex]

I couldn't find it on the internet and I don't remember what to do in this case...
 
There is no rule for adding different powers of the same base. That is exactly why polynomials are written as they are.
 
Ok I've tried so many things and I can't seem to figure out these two questions. Here they are:

Question 3:

[tex]2^{x-1}-2^{x}=2^{-3}[/tex]

Question 4:

[tex]3^{x+1}+3^{x}=36[/tex]

My work is a mess as I have tried so many variations which are probably way off course.
 
you can write 2^(x-1) as 2^x*2^(-1)
Thus you can factor the LHS, and isolate 2^x. Question 4 should be similar.
 
  • #10
Can you explain what you mean? So it would become:

[tex]2^{x}\times2^{-1}-2^{x}=2^{-3}[/tex]

But I can't really combine the like terms ([tex]2^{x}[/tex]), can I? Because isn't the first one considered "attached" to the second one? ([tex]2^{x} and 2^{-1}[/tex])

And for the second question:

[tex]3^{x}\times3^{1}+3^{x}=36[/tex]

[tex]6^{x}\times3=36[/tex]

[tex]18^{x}=36[/tex]

I'm not sure what to do from here...maybe I'm already wrong?
 
  • #11
[tex] 2^{x}\times2^{-1}-2^{x}=2^{-3}[/tex]

You can write this as
[tex] 2^x(2^{-1}-1})=2^{-3}[/tex]

Now write the term in the parentheses as 2 to some power, and you should be all set.
 
  • #12
So it's:

[tex]2^{x}(-2^{-1})=2^{3}[/tex]

But seeing as the answer in the back says no solution, I'm assuming it's not possible to solve this with a negative base seeing as the rest are positive? (2 and -2)
 
  • #13
Right. You have 2^x = (some negative number). There is no value of x for which this is true, as 2^x is always positive. (I should have noticed this earlier, but didn't think of it for what ever reason)
 
  • #14
Oh ok that makes sense, with the other question (question 4) I know how to go about it now but how do I establish a common base between 3 and 36?
 
  • #15
Actually I'll just show my work for now so you can see the progress I've made so far:

[tex]3^{x+1}+3^{x}=36[/tex]

[tex]3^{x}(3^{1}+1)=36[/tex]

Ok nevermind I thought I had an idea but I'll leave this up for reference.
 
  • #16
JBD2 said:
Actually I'll just show my work for now so you can see the progress I've made so far:

[tex]3^{x+1}+3^{x}=36[/tex]

[tex]3^{x}(3^{1}+1)=36[/tex]
And 3+1= ?

Ok nevermind I thought I had an idea but I'll leave this up for reference.
 
  • #17
[tex]3^{x}(4)=36[/tex]

Well its obvious that x is 2 but how do I do that algebraically...I can't go [tex]12^{x}=36[/tex] because x=2 wouldn't work...This probably looks like such a dumb question I just can't figure out how to get a common base...Can I go:

[tex]3^{x}(4)=3^{2}(4)[/tex]

[tex]x=2[/tex]

Does that make sense?
 
  • #18
Yes that makes sense.
 
  • #19
Oh ok thank you, I just didn't know you could have a base with two separate numbers.
 
  • #20
JBD2 said:
Actually I'll just show my work for now so you can see the progress I've made so far:

[tex]3^{x+1}+3^{x}=36[/tex]

[tex]3^{x}(3^{1}+1)=36[/tex]

Ok nevermind I thought I had an idea but I'll leave this up for reference.

leave the left hand side as it was (from the start) change right hand side to
[tex]3*3^{2}[/tex] note this is equal to 36
now all the bases are the same and they can cancel/disapear (index laws)
so now you have
(x+1)+x=1+2
and I'm sure you can go from here
 
  • #21
A fairly obvious way to solve 3x(4)= 36 is to first divide both sides by 4: 3x= 9.
 
  • #22
cheff3r said:
leave the left hand side as it was (from the start) change right hand side to
[tex]3*3^{2}[/tex] note this is equal to 36

That is equal to 27 and not 36 (3 x 9) so it doesn't work out.

HallsofIvy said:
A fairly obvious way to solve 3x(4)= 36 is to first divide both sides by 4: 3x= 9.

Oh ok thanks that makes sense.
 

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