How Do You Solve z^3 = sqrt(3) - i Using De Moivre's Theorem?

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The discussion revolves around finding all complex numbers, z, that satisfy the equation z^3 = √3 - i, utilizing De Moivre's Theorem. The problem involves complex numbers and their polar representation.

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  • Participants explore the polar form of complex numbers, discussing the modulus and argument. There are attempts to apply De Moivre's Theorem and to express the roots in both cis and exponential forms. Questions arise regarding the correct representation of the cube roots and the implications of adding multiples of 2π.

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Several participants have provided insights into the application of De Moivre's Theorem and the conversion between different forms of complex numbers. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the roots and the angles involved, with no explicit consensus reached on the final representation.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the distribution of the roots around the unit circle and the implications of using different notations (cis vs. exponential). There is also mention of the potential confusion arising from the problem's setup and the need for clarity in the approach taken.

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Hello :smile:

I'm really stuck on this question, and was hoping someone could help me.

Homework Statement



Find all complex numbers, z, that satisfy z^3 = \sqrt{3} - i


Homework Equations



z^n = r^n cis (n\theta)

r = \sqrt{a^2 + b^2}

\theta = tan^{-1}(\frac{b}{a})

Rotate anticlockwise by \frac{2\pi}{n} radians

The Attempt at a Solution



z^3 = \sqrt{3} - i

r = \sqrt{(\sqrt3)^2 + (-1)^2} = 2

\theta = tan^{-1}(\frac{-1}{\sqrt3}) = -\frac{\pi}{6}

z^3 = 2cis(-\frac{\pi}{6})

This is where I go wonky.:shy:

n = \frac{1}{3}

(z^3)^{\frac{1}{3}} = 2^{\frac{1}{3}}cis(\frac{1}{3}.-\frac{\pi}{6})

z = \sqrt[3]{2}cis(-\frac{\pi}{18})

Now, from what I've seen in the lectures, I'm supposed to add \frac{2\pi}{\frac{1}{3}} radians, then \frac{4\pi}{\frac{1}{3}} radians, then \frac{6\pi}{\frac{1}{3}} to get 2\pi, and thus complete one revolution (360 degrees).

I've seen an Argand Diagram for this question divided into sections of 120 degrees, but I'm so confused.

Could anyone help me please? I'd very much appreciate it.

Thanks. :smile:
 
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Hi Matty

Ok, you have z3 = 2 cis (-π / 6), then using De Moivre's Theorem :

z3 = 2 cis (-π / 6)

r3ei3θ = 2e-i(π / 6)

Comparing coefficient :

1)
r3=2

2)
ei3θ = e-i(π / 6)
3θ = -(π / 6) ---> this is where you add 2π, 4π, ...or add 2kπ, where k is integer

so it will be :
3θ + 2kπ = -(π / 6) ---> You can also add 2kπ on RHS

Then find θ using several value of k
 
It's easier to work with an angle with positive measure, namely 11pi/6. You want values of z such that their 3rd powers are 2cis(11pi/6). If you have a complex number in polar coordinates, it's easy to calculate powers of that number by raising the modulus of the number to that power, and multiplying the angle (arg) by that power.

For example 1 + i = sqrt(2)cis pi/4, so (1 + i)2 = (sqrt(2))2cis pi2 = 2i.

In your problem, can you work backwards and find a complex number whose cube is sqrt(3) - i? All three of the numbers are spread equally around the circle 120 deg. apart
 
Thank you so much for the replies. :smile:

I think I may have worked it out now, but I'm still a bit confused.

songoku said:
Hi Matty

Ok, you have z3 = 2 cis (-π / 6), then using De Moivre's Theorem :

z3 = 2 cis (-π / 6)

r3ei3θ = 2e-i(π / 6)

Comparing coefficient :

1)
r3=2

2)
ei3θ = e-i(π / 6)
3θ = -(π / 6) ---> this is where you add 2π, 4π, ...or add 2kπ, where k is integer

so it will be :
3θ + 2kπ = -(π / 6) ---> You can also add 2kπ on RHS

Then find θ using several value of k

Ok then.

z^3 = 2cis(-\frac{\pi}{6})

z^n = r^ne^{in\theta}

z^3 = r^3e^{i3\theta} = 2e^{i(-\frac{\pi}{6})}

3\theta = -\frac{\pi}{6} = (-\frac{\pi}{6}) + 2k\pi

\theta = \frac{(-\frac{\pi}{6}) + 2k\pi}{3} = -\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{2k\pi}{3}

z = (\sqrt[3]{2})cis(-\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{2k\pi}{3})

OR = (\sqrt[3]{2})cis(-\frac{\pi}{18})

OR = (\sqrt[3]{2})cis(-\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{2\pi}{3})

OR = (\sqrt[3]{2})cis(-\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{4\pi}{3})

Should they be written like this instead, seeing as I've used the exponential form earlier:

z = (\sqrt[3]{2})e^{i(-\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{2k\pi}{3})}

OR = (\sqrt[3]{2})e^{i(-\frac{\pi}{18})}

OR = (\sqrt[3]{2})e^{i(-\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{2\pi}{3})}

OR = (\sqrt[3]{2})e^{i(-\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{4\pi}{3})}

Mark44 said:
In your problem, can you work backwards and find a complex number whose cube is sqrt(3) - i? All three of the numbers are spread equally around the circle 120 deg. apart

Would that be (\sqrt3 - i)^{\frac{1}{3}}?
 
Well, yes, but that doesn't tell your what the three cube roots are.
 
I W-A'd it... and only got 1 answer.
 
Matty R said:
Thank you so much for the replies. :smile:

I think I may have worked it out now, but I'm still a bit confused.



Ok then.

z^3 = 2cis(-\frac{\pi}{6})

z^n = r^ne^{in\theta}

z^3 = r^3e^{i3\theta} = 2e^{i(-\frac{\pi}{6})}

3\theta = -\frac{\pi}{6} = (-\frac{\pi}{6}) + 2k\pi

\theta = \frac{(-\frac{\pi}{6}) + 2k\pi}{3} = -\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{2k\pi}{3}

z = (\sqrt[3]{2})cis(-\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{2k\pi}{3})

OR = (\sqrt[3]{2})cis(-\frac{\pi}{18})

OR = (\sqrt[3]{2})cis(-\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{2\pi}{3})

OR = (\sqrt[3]{2})cis(-\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{4\pi}{3})

Should they be written like this instead, seeing as I've used the exponential form earlier:

z = (\sqrt[3]{2})e^{i(-\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{2k\pi}{3})}

OR = (\sqrt[3]{2})e^{i(-\frac{\pi}{18})}

OR = (\sqrt[3]{2})e^{i(-\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{2\pi}{3})}

OR = (\sqrt[3]{2})e^{i(-\frac{\pi}{18} + \frac{4\pi}{3})}
"cis(\theta)", which is short for cos(\theta)+ i sin(\theta)= e^{i\theta} is primarily an engineering notation. Which is better to use depends on what kind of course this is. If it is a mathematics course being taught be a mathematician, I would say definitely use e^{i\theta}.


Would that be (\sqrt3 - i)^{\frac{1}{3}}?
 

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