How Does a Moving Speaker Affect Sound Frequency Perception?

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The problem involves a block with a speaker that oscillates horizontally, emitting sound waves. Participants are tasked with determining the highest and lowest frequencies perceived by a person as the speaker moves, as well as the minimum sound level heard based on the speaker's distance and sound pressure levels.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the Doppler effect to find maximum and minimum frequencies, questioning the constancy of the speaker's speed.
  • There are attempts to relate sound pressure levels to distance and frequency, with some participants exploring logarithmic relationships in sound level calculations.
  • Questions arise regarding the definitions of variables and the meaning of certain formulas, particularly concerning sound pressure and distance.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the relationships between speed, frequency, and sound level. There is ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships involved, with no explicit consensus reached on the final answers. The discussion remains active with participants seeking clarification and further understanding.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is some confusion regarding specific terms and formulas, indicating a need for further clarification on the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


A block with a speaker bolted to right side of it is put on the table. The left side of the block is connected to a spring having spring constant k and the block is free to oscillate in horizontal direction. The total mass of the block and speaker is m, and the amplitude of this unit's motion is A. The speaker emits sound waves of frequency f and speed of sound is v

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a. Determine the highest frequency heard by the person
b. Determine the lowest frequency heard by the person
c. If the maximum sound level heard by the person is β when the speaker is at its closest distance d from him, what is the minimum sound level heard by the person?

Homework Equations


maybe:
Doppler
T = 2π √(m/k)


The Attempt at a Solution


a. The highest frequency is when the speaker is the closest to the person. I am thinking using Doppler to find the frequency:
f_2=\frac{v±v_o}{v±v_s}f_1

But the speed of the speaker is not constant so I don't think Doppler can be used.

The maximum speed is Aω = A√(k/m), but I am stuck...

b. Don't know
 
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Well, it's asking for the maximum and minimum frequencies, so you only need the maximum and minimum speeds, which are ±Aω. That's parts a and b.
I'm assuming that sound level refers to the value measured in dB. That means that the sound level is given by L=20 \log_{10}\left(\frac{p}{p_0}\right) which can be rearrange to be L=20log10(p)-β. Here p and p0 are the pressures at the two points. The pressure is inversely proportional to distance, so you can use p0=λ/d and p=λ/(d+Δd) get L as a function of β, d, and Δd. What is Δd?
 
frogjg2003 said:
Well, it's asking for the maximum and minimum frequencies, so you only need the maximum and minimum speeds, which are ±Aω. That's parts a and b.
I'm assuming that sound level refers to the value measured in dB. That means that the sound level is given by L=20 \log_{10}\left(\frac{p}{p_0}\right) which can be rearrange to be L=20log10(p)-β. Here p and p0 are the pressures at the two points. The pressure is inversely proportional to distance, so you can use p0=λ/d and p=λ/(d+Δd) get L as a function of β, d, and Δd. What is Δd?

I have never encountered the formula p0=λ/d. λ is the wavelength of the sound wave, and what is d?
 
Oh, i used λ as an arbitrary constant. When you manipulate the math, it will be remove from the equations. d is the distance you were given in the diagram.
 
frogjg2003 said:
Oh, i used λ as an arbitrary constant. When you manipulate the math, it will be remove from the equations. d is the distance you were given in the diagram.

Actually I still don't really understand the formula and the idea but let me try:
p0=λ/d and p=λ/(d+Δd), where Δd equals to 2A + d

L = 20 log (P/P0)
= 20 log P - 20 log p0
= 20 log λ - 20 log d - 20 log λ + 20 log (2d + 2A)
= 20 log 2 [(d + A)/d]

There is no β term

or

L = 20 log (P/P0)
= 20 log P - 20 log p0
= 20 log λ - 20 log d - β

The term λ does not cancel out

Please help
 
I did another work and got answer like this:

minimum~sound~level = β + 20 log (\frac{d}{2A+d})

Is this the correct answer?
 
That looks right.
 
OK thanks a lot for your help
 

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