How Does a Spring Affect Maximum Compression in a Totally Inelastic Collision?

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The problem involves a totally inelastic collision between two blocks, one of which is attached to a spring. The context is to determine the maximum compression of the spring during the collision, incorporating concepts of momentum and energy conservation.

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of momentum to find the combined velocity of the blocks at maximum compression and the use of energy conservation to relate kinetic and potential energy in the system. There is a question about how to incorporate the spring constant into the calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using both momentum and energy conservation principles. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations, with one participant expressing confusion over a discrepancy in the expected result for spring compression.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the collision is totally inelastic and are considering the effects of a massless spring. There is mention of a potential numerical or algebraic error in the calculations presented.

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a block of mass m1 = 2kg slides along a frictionless table with a speed of 10m/s. Directly in front of it, and moving in the same direction is a block of mass m2 = 5kg moving at 3.0m/s. A massless spring with a spring constant of k = 1120N/m is attached to the near side of m2. When the blocks collide what is the max compression of the spring?

Ok, this would be treated as a totally inelastic collision because at the point of max compression, the two masses will be moving together as one, right?

my question is how do I incorporate the spring constant into the forumlas?
 
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I think you need to use both energy and momentum in this situation. Use conservation of momentum to determine the velocity of the m1-m2 system at the point of maximum compression, then calculate the difference in kinetic and potential energies in the initial and final situations to determine how much potential energy is stored in the spring and thus how far it is compressed.
 
yes...That makes sence..heres what I did

[tex]p_1_i + p_2_i = p_2_f[/tex]
[tex]m_1v_1_i + m_2v_2_i = (m_1 + m_2)V[/tex]

Solve for V:

[tex]V = 5m/s[/tex]

and then:

[tex]K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f[/tex]
[tex]1/2m_1v_1^2 + 1/2m_2v_2^2 + 0 = 1/2(m_1 + m_2)V^2 + 1/2kx^2[/tex]

solve for x yields 0.05m or 5cm...but in the book it should be 25cm

What did I do wrong?
 
Looks like it's just a numerical/algebraic error. Your final velocity is correct and your equation relating the energies is correct, double check your calculation when solving for x.
 

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